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  • B [email protected]

    What games do you play? I've been gaming exclusively on Linux since Windows 7 went EoS, and especially since the Steam Deck came out, I've had very few problems. That said I don't play competitive stuff, which is what tends to have anti-cheat rootkits.

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    Yeah. Gaming isn't the issue for a long time.
    Productivity is.
    Rantmode

    Proper CAD for Linux? Nonexistent, even worse, some manufacturers intentionally make sure you can't use a VM either until you massively pay extra.(Looking at you Dassault)
    FreeCAD is a shitshow (and that is entirely the communities fault) and no professional competitor has shown any incentive - even though there is a increasing market for Linux in some professional capacities.
    And the current projects to get bottles/wine/etc. to work are maintained by a single guy (bless him) who tried to do it for multiple systems at once and seems to have given up mostly.

    Graphic design? While the situation is a little bit better,it's still a shitshow. No, GIMP and Inkscape are not sufficient replacements for Adobe or even Affinity. They are "good enough" for most things,but they are not nearly ready for production use in any professional capacity.

    Office? Yeah. Sadly equally bad. I really really really hate Microsoft and Office. But: They are inherently good at what they do. Not because people get used to it - but because they work.
    I used LibreOffice since back when it was still StarOffice. (And have used Lotus before that)
    But we as the open source community still rather fight about ribbons (even though they became the standard everywhere) than get LibreCalc halfway production ready or make proper collaborative working possible.
    Or get a proper fucking search into thunderbird.

    And this is the problem: OSS is so damn up its own ass, that it does not see the bigger picture.
    We can fight about the kernel allowing Rust, having Ribbons, which is the proper workbench in FreeCAD or about packet managers, distro flavours,etc.
    In the end what will happen is that the other side will be alienated, excuse themselves from further contributions and, and this is even worse, a lot of possible future contributors will also not contribute.
    And wow, someone was right and can think he (and it's almost always a he) thinks he knows the only truth.

    While the actual truth is held by the others. The ones that don't even are bothered by the whole fucking discussing because they make the money, they influence millions and they are the ones setting de facto standards.
    And yes, that will mean we will need to adapt.

    Including adapting market standards. When 95% of the world does a thing "that way", it's simply preposterous to claim "your way" is the right way, even it's for historical reasons. (Easy example: CTRL C / CTRL V)

    Same goes for adapting software. If 10% of the development power of Libre Office,GIMP, etc. would have been used to further Wine/Proton to get people to be able to use their industrial standard software we would have seen much much much larger adoption rates,both professionally and for private users.

    Because that is literally what happened in gaming. Once Valve basically put massive efforts into allowing Windows games to be played on Linux - and not into developing native Linux games all of a sudden Linux gaming went ahead. Because it is a advantage for your game to work natively and well on a steam deck.

    This is even more relevant for production software. If a CEO/CIO has reached a point where his main production software runs on Linux and he has deployed Linux in his company his next software contract for other software will go towards the company who runs better in their environment.

    Rant out

    (Nothing personal,mate, I just spent the last two days to get fucking CAD to work on Fedora...)

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      I don't know what is going on at Microsoft. I'm starting to think that they are trying to pivot to a completely different business model. In addition to this Windows 11 crap and XBox seemingly being given up on, they appear to be losing their embedded market as well. In the past, if you saw any screen in an industrial setting, there's a good chance that there was the embedded Windows version behind that screen. Lately, all the new products are moving over to Linux.

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      What advantage embedded windows gave to a manufacturer for it to be worth paying license fee for? I kinda feel this part is difficult for Microsoft to compete at

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      • irelephant@lemm.eeI [email protected]

        Why is everyone reccommending linux mint all of a sudden? What happened to ubuntu and fedora?

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        mint user here, I want my distro devs to work faster on fixing keyboard layouts on wayland.

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          It does, but performance seems a lot laggier than Windows.

          I've been using Linux full time for a while now, and only recently installed Windows on a secondary drive, just for those two things.

          Before, on Linux, it was a bit of mixed bag.
          Sometimes it would start up without issue, other times sound wouldn't work, etc.

          Using corectl is a must, and make sure you have a stable steam install. (iirc the steam I installed didn't come with half of the 32 bit libs it was expecting).
          I'm rocking a 7900xtx, so it's not exactly low-end, and half-life alyx was giving me a lot of stutters.

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          I can imagine the frustration of lag in vr.

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            I just deleted my old Mocrosoft account. Forgot I had it until recently.

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            did you export your skype data?

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            • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub0 [email protected]

              But not for the home version of Wubuntu 11.

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              no that's sketchy in terms of it's ownership. use mint

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                How does this work nowadays when you buy a PC from a store?
                Does it come with Windows already installed?
                And if so, with what account?

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                  Ubuntu added telemetry and forced snaps

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                  And Ubuntu Pro popup ads. Linux Mint is, from a compatibility standpoint, Ubuntu without the crap.

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                    How does this work nowadays when you buy a PC from a store?
                    Does it come with Windows already installed?
                    And if so, with what account?

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                    Installed yes, but the OOBE that runs (assuming the OEM didn't fuck it up) is more or less the same as a retail install: you have to add the account, untick the 300 'yes, please spy on me' boxes, and tell it that you do not want office 14 times.

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                      Once steamos drops nvidia support and starts coming pre-loaded on laptops and pre-built desktops it's over for their consumer division.

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                      No it's not, multiplayer games with anticheat that hard-locks you into Windows and productivity software with DRM that hard-locks you into Windows is still a thing, if that were to stop being a thing, then Windows' dominance on the desktop might finally be threatened, but until then, sadly, no.

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                        Any gamers looking to switch, I've had a good experience with Bazzite.

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                        I'm much more of a cachyos person in terms of gaming

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                          Yeah. Gaming isn't the issue for a long time.
                          Productivity is.
                          Rantmode

                          Proper CAD for Linux? Nonexistent, even worse, some manufacturers intentionally make sure you can't use a VM either until you massively pay extra.(Looking at you Dassault)
                          FreeCAD is a shitshow (and that is entirely the communities fault) and no professional competitor has shown any incentive - even though there is a increasing market for Linux in some professional capacities.
                          And the current projects to get bottles/wine/etc. to work are maintained by a single guy (bless him) who tried to do it for multiple systems at once and seems to have given up mostly.

                          Graphic design? While the situation is a little bit better,it's still a shitshow. No, GIMP and Inkscape are not sufficient replacements for Adobe or even Affinity. They are "good enough" for most things,but they are not nearly ready for production use in any professional capacity.

                          Office? Yeah. Sadly equally bad. I really really really hate Microsoft and Office. But: They are inherently good at what they do. Not because people get used to it - but because they work.
                          I used LibreOffice since back when it was still StarOffice. (And have used Lotus before that)
                          But we as the open source community still rather fight about ribbons (even though they became the standard everywhere) than get LibreCalc halfway production ready or make proper collaborative working possible.
                          Or get a proper fucking search into thunderbird.

                          And this is the problem: OSS is so damn up its own ass, that it does not see the bigger picture.
                          We can fight about the kernel allowing Rust, having Ribbons, which is the proper workbench in FreeCAD or about packet managers, distro flavours,etc.
                          In the end what will happen is that the other side will be alienated, excuse themselves from further contributions and, and this is even worse, a lot of possible future contributors will also not contribute.
                          And wow, someone was right and can think he (and it's almost always a he) thinks he knows the only truth.

                          While the actual truth is held by the others. The ones that don't even are bothered by the whole fucking discussing because they make the money, they influence millions and they are the ones setting de facto standards.
                          And yes, that will mean we will need to adapt.

                          Including adapting market standards. When 95% of the world does a thing "that way", it's simply preposterous to claim "your way" is the right way, even it's for historical reasons. (Easy example: CTRL C / CTRL V)

                          Same goes for adapting software. If 10% of the development power of Libre Office,GIMP, etc. would have been used to further Wine/Proton to get people to be able to use their industrial standard software we would have seen much much much larger adoption rates,both professionally and for private users.

                          Because that is literally what happened in gaming. Once Valve basically put massive efforts into allowing Windows games to be played on Linux - and not into developing native Linux games all of a sudden Linux gaming went ahead. Because it is a advantage for your game to work natively and well on a steam deck.

                          This is even more relevant for production software. If a CEO/CIO has reached a point where his main production software runs on Linux and he has deployed Linux in his company his next software contract for other software will go towards the company who runs better in their environment.

                          Rant out

                          (Nothing personal,mate, I just spent the last two days to get fucking CAD to work on Fedora...)

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                          Blender at least has gotten to the point where an indie flick made with it actually won some Oscars and other big awards, so that pretty much put it on the map as a viable Maya or 3DSMax alternative, so there's that.

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                            Looks like I’ll finally be migrating my final workstation off of Windows 11.

                            I mean, I still have a while. The Dell T7910 still meets all of the Windows 11 Workstation 24H2 requirements, so Rufus only needs to modify that one part of the installer. And once I have Windows installed, I can do upgrades over Windows Update.

                            But once the machine gets too old for that…

                            At least OpenSUSE meets most of my needs.

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                              Ok, so this solidifies my desire to never buy a Windows PC/laptop and why my switch to Mac was a good choice a few years ago. However Mac gaming is nowhere near where it should be right now and I was thinking about getting a cheap Windows laptop for games that aren't available on Mac.

                              I remember a push a few years ago to get some linux distros pre-installed on some OEM hardware but I didn't hear much of anything past the hype. Anyone have any good OEM brands that have linux installed instead of Windows and are relatively affordable?

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                                I am! Looking for a distro that I can use AGI32 on. It already crashes consistently on Windows for large projects and I reckon it'll do worse on wine.

                                I also use substance painter a lot but I reckon moving into a FOSS alternative will be a good move for that. Wean myself off Adobe dependency. Unless it works in wine but I've been told anything Adobe or Autodesk can't run in wine.

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                                Oh wow I looked up AGi32 and that thing seems like a mess. I feel sorry for you.

                                I get that it might be hard to migrate some really nastily written software, but... In the year of our lord 2025, it should not be acceptable for any sort of simulation software that requires an expensive paid license, to be 32-bit only.

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                                  And Ubuntu Pro popup ads. Linux Mint is, from a compatibility standpoint, Ubuntu without the crap.

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                                  So out of curiosity, why Mint over, say Debian? Has Debian added telemetry etc as well?

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                                    So out of curiosity, why Mint over, say Debian? Has Debian added telemetry etc as well?

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                                    Debian is a stable distro and therefore tends to have less up-to-date packages.

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                                      It's not a big deal. They're removing the bypassnro.cmd script, which is just this:


                                      @echo off
                                      reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
                                      shutdown /r /t 0


                                      You can still use shift-F10 at the same point, type those two lines (not the @ECHO OFF), and it will achieve the same result.

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                                        Debian is a stable distro and therefore tends to have less up-to-date packages.

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                                        Ahh so Mint is kept up to date like Ubuntu/Fedora and doesn't have all the telemetry and pop ups for Ubuntu Pro. Thank you!

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                                          So out of curiosity, why Mint over, say Debian? Has Debian added telemetry etc as well?

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                                          I've been using Debian on my desktop for five years now so this information might be a bit outdated, but I have recently installed Mint on my server.

                                          In my experience Mint (and Ubuntu) have been more beginner friendly with installation and initial setup. I remember trying to install Debian on my MacBook which just crashed on bootup whereas Ubuntu worked out of the box. Mint draws from Ubuntu's repositories which are more up to date and has more packages in it. Being able to rely on apt for installing packages has meant an easier user experience. And the last thing is that there's just more information out there for troubleshooting Mint problems than there is for Debian in my experience.

                                          That's what I find. I could be wrong about some of the details

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