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  • T [email protected]

    That sounds good on paper, but the chances that someone else will pick up the ball if they abandon it, even if it's open source, are very slim. If you care about keeping it alive then paying them is a more effective strategy than hoping for random volunteer work by internet strangers.

    You, on the other hand, have good chances of being able to learn new tools. So I think the need for this security is exaggerated.

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    I'm a developer, so my chances are pretty good. But I take your point.

    Even if I weren't, there's enough software options out there that I don't have to pick between paying for proprietary software and living with abandonware.

    So I think the need for this security is exaggerated.

    Of course. I used proprietary software for a long time. Having things I relied on get abandoned got old, but it worked.

    I just expect more from most of my software, now.

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    • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

      Buy software, once Say goodbye to subscription fatigue! Discover software you can buy once and own forever--no recurring charges, just tools that work for you, for life.

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      I've bought way too much software that suddenly abandons their product to launch a new subscription based version.

      I'd rather choose FOSS than anything payed.

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        Fuck paid software, use open source

        It's not even for the cost of it, I simply refuse to trust any software that is not open because I know they'll try to fuck me over one way or the other

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        I understand sentiment after seeing how a lot of tech companies are. The other side of it is this: Developers still have bills to pay. FOSS projects are great, especially if they're done by a small team and have a supportive community, but there are only a limited number of developers who have a combination of knowledge, skill, free time, and financial capability to truly dedicate themselves to FOSS projects.

        If I could support myself by coding for FOSS projects, I would probably try (hell I just might not be aware of opportunities for this) but that isn't the reality in front of me.

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          Fuck paid software, use open source

          It's not even for the cost of it, I simply refuse to trust any software that is not open because I know they'll try to fuck me over one way or the other

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          Any paid open source software you'd consider to pay?

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          • O [email protected]

            I understand sentiment after seeing how a lot of tech companies are. The other side of it is this: Developers still have bills to pay. FOSS projects are great, especially if they're done by a small team and have a supportive community, but there are only a limited number of developers who have a combination of knowledge, skill, free time, and financial capability to truly dedicate themselves to FOSS projects.

            If I could support myself by coding for FOSS projects, I would probably try (hell I just might not be aware of opportunities for this) but that isn't the reality in front of me.

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            It is possible, for example Evan You did it, but he wrote the third maybe nowadays 2nd most popular SPA framework in Vue.js and he is also doing other things with Vite, but at that point he is basically getting paid by companies too to work on that.

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            • N [email protected]

              They are "buy once" in that their licenses include perpetual fallback. Whenever you stop paying, you retain your licenses perpetually

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              Not whenever, you need to be paying for a year and then then the latest version from a year ago is what you get the perpetual license for

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              • D [email protected]

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open-source_software_packages

                Buy never software

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                Donate when you can tho

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                • kratoz29@lemm.eeK [email protected]

                  Any paid open source software you'd consider to pay?

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                  The one you like the most and give a donation.

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                  • H [email protected]

                    I've bought way too much software that suddenly abandons their product to launch a new subscription based version.

                    I'd rather choose FOSS than anything payed.

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                    also nearly all of the stuff on that site looks like garbage that will do exactly what you said.

                    and yes I looked at every single program.. there aren't that many

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                      related: [email protected]

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                      oh is this the proper way to link to other lemmy stuff without sending them to the other servers domain? to add the "!" in front? I've seen a lot of links before, which bring you to the other site. but never the "!"

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                      • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                        Buy software, once Say goodbye to subscription fatigue! Discover software you can buy once and own forever--no recurring charges, just tools that work for you, for life.

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                        Buy... Software? You what?

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                        • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                          Buy software, once Say goodbye to subscription fatigue! Discover software you can buy once and own forever--no recurring charges, just tools that work for you, for life.

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                          I think paid open source like GPL Blender addons from BlenderMarket, Gumroad, etc. is a good option. You pay for it to support the devs while also owning what you bought.

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                          • cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                            Buy software, once Say goodbye to subscription fatigue! Discover software you can buy once and own forever--no recurring charges, just tools that work for you, for life.

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                            Does anyone have any good alternatives to glasswire on windows?

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                            • D [email protected]

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open-source_software_packages

                              Buy never software

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                              FOSS is notoriously low quality and can disappear at any given time when the developer(s) lose motivation. Don't get me wrong, I love them too, but I'll also gladly pay for something more polished and sustainable.

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                              • T [email protected]

                                The IntelliJ products are not exactly "buy once" - if you want updated versions you need to keep paying periodically.

                                Not that I think that's a bad thing necessarily - it doesn't make sense to expect devs to continue working on something year after year when you're not paying them for it.

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                                if you want updated versions you need to keep paying periodically.

                                But you can continue using the older version, yes?

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                                • tabular@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                                  own forever

                                  Ownership implies control - being able to maintain/repair, modify or even resell.

                                  To be in control of software you need access to it's source code, and have the right to share changes with others.

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                                  "Ownership" can mean a lot of different things and the things you listed are most certainly not a requirement.

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                                  • D [email protected]

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open-source_software_packages

                                    Buy never software

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                                    I use almost exclusively FOSS and I have monthly/annual contributions set up for various projects.

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                                    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                      FOSS is notoriously low quality and can disappear at any given time when the developer(s) lose motivation. Don't get me wrong, I love them too, but I'll also gladly pay for something more polished and sustainable.

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                                      Right, because proprietary software is never abandoned. At least foss leaves you with the source code so you or other folk can carry on the torch in the original dev's absence.

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                                      • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                        FOSS is notoriously low quality and can disappear at any given time when the developer(s) lose motivation. Don't get me wrong, I love them too, but I'll also gladly pay for something more polished and sustainable.

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                                        Proprietary software is also notoriously low-quality and can disappear at any time when the developer loses motivation. Additionally, because the software is closed source, nobody else is able to continue the development of proprietary abandonware. On the other hand, abandoned FOSS projects can be forked and continued, which is something I see often.

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                                        • airglow@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                          Proprietary software is also notoriously low-quality and can disappear at any time when the developer loses motivation. Additionally, because the software is closed source, nobody else is able to continue the development of proprietary abandonware. On the other hand, abandoned FOSS projects can be forked and continued, which is something I see often.

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                                          Proprietary software is also notoriously low-quality and can disappear at any time

                                          This is just a false equivalency. Do both of those things happen in both cases? Sure. Does it happen WAY more often with FOSS? Also yes. Just go through F-Droid or Flathub and look at the long list of apps that haven't been updated in years.

                                          Paid software is typically not something someone does in their free time to fill a resume for a real job. It's something they are able to dedicate real time to because it pays their bills and they have obligations to their paying users. They can also hire other people who also gets their bills paid and have similar obligations.

                                          Neither one is inherently better.

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