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  • S [email protected]

    I've had this thought before, but have also wondered whether it's even possible to implement this using ActivityPub, considering that a wiki inherently requires having the same state everywhere, but ActivityPub allows instances to ban and defederate how they like (thus become desynchronized from each other).

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    I mean most fandom I have seen have more than one wiki as there is more than one wiki company.

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    • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

      https://ibis.wiki/ ?

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      It wouod be amazing to see Ibis take off and pick up more developers

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      • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

        https://ibis.wiki/ ?

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        Thanks for linking my project. Im happy to answer questions about it. Also here you can find the git repo.

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          I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

          I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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          It's not federated by any means, but if you want to replace FANDOM wikis with other equivalents, Indie Wiki Buddy is a great extension to have on hand.

          https://getindie.wiki

          There's options to remove FANDOM from search results in favour of other options, and they also allow you to redirect to the Breezewiki frontend for FANDOM to get rid of all those shitty ads and UI, which is legal considering the contents of FANDOM pages are still under the Commons.

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            I'm not thinking of a single distributed wiki, but something more like Fandom where you can edit pages on other wikis that are federated to yours.

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            Sounds like single sign-on (SSO). Which is practically everywhere these days.

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              I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

              I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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              Hubzilla (macroblogging service in the Fediverse) can also be used to create and collaborate on wikis.

              I can only find a German-language manual for this right away: https://help.hubzilla.hu/benutzerhandbuch/wikis.html

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                I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

                I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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                Ward Cunningham has written a federated wiki.

                https://www.wired.com/2012/07/wiki-inventor/

                https://github.com/fedwiki

                http://fed.wiki.org/view/welcome-visitors

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                • nutomic@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

                  Thanks for linking my project. Im happy to answer questions about it. Also here you can find the git repo.

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                  This looks very awesome. So it also functions as a redundant wiki?

                  Wikipedia should use it. Then others can create their own wikis, which keep a version of articles of Wikipedia.

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                  • caos@feddit.orgC [email protected]

                    Hubzilla (macroblogging service in the Fediverse) can also be used to create and collaborate on wikis.

                    I can only find a German-language manual for this right away: https://help.hubzilla.hu/benutzerhandbuch/wikis.html

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                    Hubzilla is pretty amazing and has a ton of potential, unfortunately hasn't really taken off at all.

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                    • nutomic@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

                      Thanks for linking my project. Im happy to answer questions about it. Also here you can find the git repo.

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                      This looks interesting.

                      Seems like it's still early days yet, but are there plans to add things like namespaces and categories?

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                      • groupnebula563@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

                        I wonder if it could be done with a MediaWiki plugin, given how extensible MW and its plugin system is

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                        I wouldn't doubt it, though MW seems hard to manage.

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                          I wouldn't doubt it, though MW seems hard to manage.

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                          It's not that bad once you get the hang of it, especially using a wiki farm like http://www.miraheze.org/

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                          • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                            https://ibis.wiki/ ?

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                            Seems like there is a federated solution for everything lol

                            There's also a list of ActivityPub software on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub#Software_using_ActivityPub

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                              Hosting a wiki isn't that expensive it's basically texts and some lightweight pictures. The whole english wikipedia is around 109GB of data.

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                              That doesn’t include images. Images are stored on wikimedia commons, which is about 425 TB.

                              https://webarchiveweb.wayback.bac-lac.canada.ca/web/20240117045744/https%3A//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3ASize_of_Wikipedia

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                                This looks interesting.

                                Seems like it's still early days yet, but are there plans to add things like namespaces and categories?

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                                For now my focus is to make it federate with Lemmy and the rest of the Fediverse. But you're welcome to open an issue for that kind of feature.

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                                • meldrik@lemmy.wtfM [email protected]

                                  This looks very awesome. So it also functions as a redundant wiki?

                                  Wikipedia should use it. Then others can create their own wikis, which keep a version of articles of Wikipedia.

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                                  Its similar to Lemmy in many ways, so like Lemmy posts are redundantly mirrored across instances, the same is true for Ibis articles.

                                  Getting Wikipedia federated would be great, but it will take a long time for Ibis to be ready for that scale.

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                                    Seems like there is a federated solution for everything lol

                                    There's also a list of ActivityPub software on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub#Software_using_ActivityPub

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                                    Nah... Missing IMHO:

                                    • Strava like
                                    • IMDB like
                                    • stackoverflow like
                                    • google maps review like
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                                    • nutomic@lemmy.mlN [email protected]

                                      Its similar to Lemmy in many ways, so like Lemmy posts are redundantly mirrored across instances, the same is true for Ibis articles.

                                      Getting Wikipedia federated would be great, but it will take a long time for Ibis to be ready for that scale.

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                                      Can ibis import a full Wikipedia backup?

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                                      • lgsp@feddit.itL [email protected]

                                        Nah... Missing IMHO:

                                        • Strava like
                                        • IMDB like
                                        • stackoverflow like
                                        • google maps review like
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                                        Also:

                                        • gift economy/trading platform (e.g. like freecycle)
                                        • buying/selling (e.g. like ebay)
                                        • local community/bioregionalism networks (e.g. what nextdoor should be)

                                        These seem kind of ideal for a federated network, IMO.

                                        I actually think Lemmy would be a pretty decent format for something stackoverflow like - just maybe needs to UI tweaks to minimise the visual space that replies take up, plus maybe answered post flair

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                                          I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

                                          I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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                                          I used gitit for a while. It's got backed and you can propagate it around that way.

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