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  • F [email protected]

    That doesn’t include images. Images are stored on wikimedia commons, which is about 425 TB.

    https://webarchiveweb.wayback.bac-lac.canada.ca/web/20240117045744/https%3A//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia%3ASize_of_Wikipedia

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    Well, with Kiwix I was able to download the whole english wikipedia with mid-res pictures on my 128GB USB Drive. I think the 600TB you're talking about includes videos and hish-res pictures.

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    • lgsp@feddit.itL [email protected]

      Nah... Missing IMHO:

      • Strava like
      • IMDB like
      • stackoverflow like
      • google maps review like
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      Strava like: FitTrackee and Endurain are planning to implement ActivityPub so yah there's gonna to be one
      IMDB like: NeoDB and LibRate
      Not sure about the rest

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        Strava like: FitTrackee and Endurain are planning to implement ActivityPub so yah there's gonna to be one
        IMDB like: NeoDB and LibRate
        Not sure about the rest

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        thank you! I will keep an eye on those

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          I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

          I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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          What benefit would federating it bring?

          The ability to self-host your own FOSS wiki already exists and has for over two decades. It's called MediaWiki.

          You could have federated accounts I guess but do editors on the Doctor Who wiki really need the ability to see posts on Mastadon or edit pages on the That 70's Wiki?

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            There's https://codeberg.org/flohmarkt/flohmarkt for a marketplace.

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            Thanks, I saw that flohmakrt link in another comment too. Excellent!

            Does that yrpri site work well?

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              Can ibis import a full Wikipedia backup?

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              There is an API so you could write a script to import any kind of data.

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                What benefit would federating it bring?

                The ability to self-host your own FOSS wiki already exists and has for over two decades. It's called MediaWiki.

                You could have federated accounts I guess but do editors on the Doctor Who wiki really need the ability to see posts on Mastadon or edit pages on the That 70's Wiki?

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                Discovery. The current state of google dooms such small wikis. They will have zero traffic. Google has been overtaken by AI slop, so if we want to be relevant, we have no choice but to federate

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                  What benefit would federating it bring?

                  The ability to self-host your own FOSS wiki already exists and has for over two decades. It's called MediaWiki.

                  You could have federated accounts I guess but do editors on the Doctor Who wiki really need the ability to see posts on Mastadon or edit pages on the That 70's Wiki?

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                  In addition to discoverability, I'd say it provides a happy medium between letting every rando with an IP address edit a page and requiring account creation. Part of the point of the fediverse is to have (almost) everything in one place under a single account while still keeping things decentralized.

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                    In addition to discoverability, I'd say it provides a happy medium between letting every rando with an IP address edit a page and requiring account creation. Part of the point of the fediverse is to have (almost) everything in one place under a single account while still keeping things decentralized.

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                    Can you elaborate on "discoverability"? Finding individual subject wikis has never been a particular problem for me. Even ones that don't use Fandom, provided they are at least active. Just googling "<insert subject> wikia" (I know. I can't let it go) always gets me what I need.

                    Can't say I see an advantage to universal accounts (I see more disadvantages), but if that's the big selling point and people really want it. I'm not opposed to having it, i've just always treated it as a mild novelty I never use.

                    As for decentralization, it has already been solved by MediaWiki. Which is GPL and (can be) self-hosted.

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                      Can you elaborate on "discoverability"? Finding individual subject wikis has never been a particular problem for me. Even ones that don't use Fandom, provided they are at least active. Just googling "<insert subject> wikia" (I know. I can't let it go) always gets me what I need.

                      Can't say I see an advantage to universal accounts (I see more disadvantages), but if that's the big selling point and people really want it. I'm not opposed to having it, i've just always treated it as a mild novelty I never use.

                      As for decentralization, it has already been solved by MediaWiki. Which is GPL and (can be) self-hosted.

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                      On Lemmy you can see (and search) a list of all the activity from every instance federated to your home instance. Looking at Ibis, which a few posters have mentioned on this thread, it has a discover page with a list of federated instances and articles on those instances. The current format is hardly scalable, but it's a start.

                      But, as I said before, the issue is less about discoverability and more about editing. Just like I can post in this thread even though I'm on a different instance, you can edit an article on one instance even though you're on another. The alternative as used by Wikipedia, is to allow anyone, account or not, to edit. Requiring someone to have an account on a federated instance would mitigate a fair amount of spam and ease moderation.

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                        On Lemmy you can see (and search) a list of all the activity from every instance federated to your home instance. Looking at Ibis, which a few posters have mentioned on this thread, it has a discover page with a list of federated instances and articles on those instances. The current format is hardly scalable, but it's a start.

                        But, as I said before, the issue is less about discoverability and more about editing. Just like I can post in this thread even though I'm on a different instance, you can edit an article on one instance even though you're on another. The alternative as used by Wikipedia, is to allow anyone, account or not, to edit. Requiring someone to have an account on a federated instance would mitigate a fair amount of spam and ease moderation.

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                        Requiring someone to have an account on a federated instance would mitigate a fair amount of spam and ease moderation.

                        What would that solve that mandating accounts for a standard wiki wouldn't?

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                          Thanks, I saw that flohmakrt link in another comment too. Excellent!

                          Does that yrpri site work well?

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                          It's been around for many years now and famously was used in the consultations for the constitution of Iceland. We also used it in Bulgaria back in 2013 and had a community of more than 3000 users, but it lost traction due to being ignored by politicians and controversial debates.

                          You can see more recent activity on https://www.citizens.is/ , particularly the impact and news sections.

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                            It's been around for many years now and famously was used in the consultations for the constitution of Iceland. We also used it in Bulgaria back in 2013 and had a community of more than 3000 users, but it lost traction due to being ignored by politicians and controversial debates.

                            You can see more recent activity on https://www.citizens.is/ , particularly the impact and news sections.

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                            I wonder if they would be interested in implementing ActivityPub?

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                              thank you! I will keep an eye on those

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                                I wonder if they would be interested in implementing ActivityPub?

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                                https://github.com/CitizensFoundation/your-priorities-app/issues/161

                                It's not a straightforward task. And it's controversial is you want to avoid multiple registrations.

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