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After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad

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  • nerdschleife@lemm.eeN [email protected]

    The search and replace UX is 10 years behind. The sole reason I use sublime text instead

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    Npp has normal, with special characters and regex, does sublime has something better there?

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      Npp has normal, with special characters and regex, does sublime has something better there?

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      They said UI, so I don't think they meant features. But honestly I've never been unhappy with their UI, aside from one day with multiple replaces across a few files where the autofill from clipboard kept deleting the expression I wanted to be in there as I navigated through what I needed to do.

      But that was fine, anyway, it got through it and I'm just happy with the "apply to all open documents" setting. Saved me at least an hour.

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        Npp has normal, with special characters and regex, does sublime has something better there?

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        The regex engine was not full featured last time I tried. Done know which implementation they use, but it was lacking basic features like end of line matching (if I remember correctly).

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            People at Microsoft doesn't understand what people use Notepad for.

            If they wanted to add AI features, they should have added it to WordPad, and make it more modern.

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              What does "Excel" do? What does "Steam" do? What does "Balena" do? What does "Conky" do?

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              I think programs that we think of as being part of the OS, such as the included text editor, is a very different thing to something like Steam.

              Steam isn't preinstalled on your PC, it's not a core part of your desktop OS. You download Steam yourself, and you only do it once you know what it is.

              Besides, even if that weren't the case, another dev doing it doesn't mean KDE should.

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                Clickbait.
                Notepad is still free. If you want to use Rewrite, then you pay for that.

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                  I usually use my work laptop for personal bits and bobs which is Ubuntu but I turned on my personal Microsoft PC recently to do some stuff and couldn't believe all the pop-ups and noise! I promptly moved all my data onto a external drive and did a fresh install of Ubuntu.

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                  • zewm@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                    There is actually an option to do that iirc. You can have it show entry descriptions.

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                    Indeed. That's what I do on my Plasma system, it's a good option.

                    But a new user or someone who isn't technical won't see that, they don't go digging through settings in each app, they just use the defaults.

                    I guess a solid compromise would be to enable this by default, and anybody who doesn't like that short descriptor can disable it.

                    But IMO nothing will beat the no-nonsense straightforwardness of calling OS apps immediately intuitive names. This is something I believe Gnome gets right. Go onto their GitHub and their file manager is called Nautilus, but on your system it will default to being called "Files", because they know everyone will understand what "Files" is but a lot of people would ask "Wtf is Nautilus??", same goes for other apps, e.g. "Loupe" appearing as "Image Viewer".

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                      Genuinely very useful, however I feel that can be achieved without a login and paid AI subscription.

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                      Heck, it probably can be done with a regex. (Yeah, I know)

                      There's no need to kill three forests just to do the exact same work you could have done by opening your dataset in Excel.

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                        People at Microsoft doesn't understand what people use Notepad for.

                        If they wanted to add AI features, they should have added it to WordPad, and make it more modern.

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                        Yeah but no one uses wordpad. They put it in notepad for the exact reason you're saying: because people use it.

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                          People at Microsoft doesn't understand what people use Notepad for.

                          If they wanted to add AI features, they should have added it to WordPad, and make it more modern.

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                          Microsoft killed Wordpad

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                            People at Microsoft doesn't understand what people use Notepad for.

                            If they wanted to add AI features, they should have added it to WordPad, and make it more modern.

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                            They killed wordpad.

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                            • nerdschleife@lemm.eeN [email protected]

                              The search and replace UX is 10 years behind. The sole reason I use sublime text instead

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                              I'm a happy sublime user myself but the search UI is one thing I particularly don't like about it.

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                              • nadram@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                Clickbait.
                                Notepad is still free. If you want to use Rewrite, then you pay for that.

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                                I can understand separating a new paid-only feature, especially if you don't much need that part. The new features are reportedly accessible from the GUI of Notepad so I wouldn't blame anyone else who thought "NOTEPAD" asked them to sign up and pay a subscription to use "NOTEPAD" features.

                                I used to rage when reading bad changes to Windows, even after I'd stopped using it. Now I just feel bad that my friends are still in that a bad relationship with their computer.

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                                  isn't the paywall for notepad buying windows and a computer?

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                                    Fucking click bait garbage article, but thankfully the article has a tldr that basically contradicts the headline

                                    TL;DR: Microsoft has introduced a paywall for Notepad, requiring a Microsoft 365 subscription to access new features like the AI-powered Rewrite tool.

                                    Better headline: Microsoft forces you to pay to suffer through using their AI tool that no one asked for, application otherwise unchanged.

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                                      So notepad isn't behind a paywall, AI features nobody was asking for is behind a paywall, and this headline is bullshit.

                                      That's my takeaway.

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                                      Eh. They shared those features to Notepad, so I would agree that they're a part of it.

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                                        I think programs that we think of as being part of the OS, such as the included text editor, is a very different thing to something like Steam.

                                        Steam isn't preinstalled on your PC, it's not a core part of your desktop OS. You download Steam yourself, and you only do it once you know what it is.

                                        Besides, even if that weren't the case, another dev doing it doesn't mean KDE should.

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                                        Kate isn't a part of the OS, though... the text editor that is a part of the OS is called "vi".

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                                          They killed wordpad.

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                                          Add it to OneNote then?

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