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Epic Games is delisting Dark and Darker due to an ongoing legal dispute

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  • quadraturesurfer@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

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    Hello, @everyone. We regret to inform you of some unfortunate news.

    Epic Games has decided to delist Dark and Darker from the Epic Games Store.

    This decision appears to be based on claims made by the opposing party in the ongoing legal dispute. We are currently working to understand the exact reasoning behind this removal.

    It seems that the removal process is not yet fully complete, as Dark and Darker is no longer listed, but Dark and Darker: Legendary Status is still available for purchase. Please be aware of this potential confusion.

    In preparation for the possibility that Dark and Darker may no longer be playable on Epic Games, we are working on alternative solutions to ensure that players can continue enjoying the game. We will share more details as soon as possible.

    We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
    :::

    The game was already delisted from steam back in 2023 before being restored in June 2024.

    Here's an article that takes an in depth look at the case that Nexon filed against Ironmace:
    https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2023/04/18/understanding-the-dark-and-darker-lawsuit/

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    IP/Copyright law is a fucking joke and a scam.

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    • 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de2 [email protected]

      RIP bozo. I should play this soon before they get nuked legally, huh. I've heard it's good.

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      #6

      It was good early on but my homie says it's pay2win trash now.

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      • thcdenton@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

        It was good early on but my homie says it's pay2win trash now.

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        It feels more like a dance game to me. Boring and awkward choreographed moves in response to predictable monster moves. Once you've learned the moves, then you can pay and play!

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        • N [email protected]

          If the game is delisted and you have bought it is it still downloaded and playable.

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          #8

          This is going to vary from case to case.

          In a situation where sales are legal and the publisher or platform choose to remove it from sale then its usually still available in you library for download.

          But is a situation where the publisher never had a legal right to sell the product and the platform never had a right to offer it for sale? Then it may be pulled from libraries.

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          • quadraturesurfer@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

            ::: spoiler Tap for full text from the message
            Hello, @everyone. We regret to inform you of some unfortunate news.

            Epic Games has decided to delist Dark and Darker from the Epic Games Store.

            This decision appears to be based on claims made by the opposing party in the ongoing legal dispute. We are currently working to understand the exact reasoning behind this removal.

            It seems that the removal process is not yet fully complete, as Dark and Darker is no longer listed, but Dark and Darker: Legendary Status is still available for purchase. Please be aware of this potential confusion.

            In preparation for the possibility that Dark and Darker may no longer be playable on Epic Games, we are working on alternative solutions to ensure that players can continue enjoying the game. We will share more details as soon as possible.

            We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
            :::

            The game was already delisted from steam back in 2023 before being restored in June 2024.

            Here's an article that takes an in depth look at the case that Nexon filed against Ironmace:
            https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2023/04/18/understanding-the-dark-and-darker-lawsuit/

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            Would you look at that Ross Scott is right again

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            • thcdenton@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

              It was good early on but my homie says it's pay2win trash now.

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              Pay 2 win? You can only get cosmetics from using real money.. some cosmetics are char races that will change some stats but they hardly make you win.. Getting +1 Agi for -1 Str isnt a huge "pay2win" difference lol

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                Pay 2 win? You can only get cosmetics from using real money.. some cosmetics are char races that will change some stats but they hardly make you win.. Getting +1 Agi for -1 Str isnt a huge "pay2win" difference lol

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                Ay that's just my friend said. I just heard it was wack now. If it isn't i might give it another try

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                • quadraturesurfer@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

                  ::: spoiler Tap for full text from the message
                  Hello, @everyone. We regret to inform you of some unfortunate news.

                  Epic Games has decided to delist Dark and Darker from the Epic Games Store.

                  This decision appears to be based on claims made by the opposing party in the ongoing legal dispute. We are currently working to understand the exact reasoning behind this removal.

                  It seems that the removal process is not yet fully complete, as Dark and Darker is no longer listed, but Dark and Darker: Legendary Status is still available for purchase. Please be aware of this potential confusion.

                  In preparation for the possibility that Dark and Darker may no longer be playable on Epic Games, we are working on alternative solutions to ensure that players can continue enjoying the game. We will share more details as soon as possible.

                  We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
                  :::

                  The game was already delisted from steam back in 2023 before being restored in June 2024.

                  Here's an article that takes an in depth look at the case that Nexon filed against Ironmace:
                  https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2023/04/18/understanding-the-dark-and-darker-lawsuit/

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                  Isn't this the game that has a weird kernel anticheat which scrapes your entire PC every time it runs, hastening your storage device's demise?

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                  • thcdenton@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                    It was good early on but my homie says it's pay2win trash now.

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                    Can't pay to win shit. My homie says your homie is trash.

                    fuckin quoting "the homie" lol. Just play it.

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                    • thcdenton@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                      Ay that's just my friend said. I just heard it was wack now. If it isn't i might give it another try

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                      As a basis of a game.. its amazing and unique! Does it have MASSIVE issues? For sure!

                      It, like most games nowadays is early access and the company has been through a bunch of crap so development is slow.. There are a few "clones" of the idea of fantasy extraction shooters out there but all seem to fall short when it comes to immersion compared to Dark and Darker..

                      It is by far most fun at the start of the wipe and gets gradually worse through the season.
                      I personally am hooked as there is nothing else like it out there.

                      What most people complain about now is how unbalanced some classes are compared to the rest, which will always happen in a fantasy setting game I think.. (Ranged vs Melee vs Magic always have balance issues with hard counters etc)

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                      • quadraturesurfer@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

                        ::: spoiler Tap for full text from the message
                        Hello, @everyone. We regret to inform you of some unfortunate news.

                        Epic Games has decided to delist Dark and Darker from the Epic Games Store.

                        This decision appears to be based on claims made by the opposing party in the ongoing legal dispute. We are currently working to understand the exact reasoning behind this removal.

                        It seems that the removal process is not yet fully complete, as Dark and Darker is no longer listed, but Dark and Darker: Legendary Status is still available for purchase. Please be aware of this potential confusion.

                        In preparation for the possibility that Dark and Darker may no longer be playable on Epic Games, we are working on alternative solutions to ensure that players can continue enjoying the game. We will share more details as soon as possible.

                        We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
                        :::

                        The game was already delisted from steam back in 2023 before being restored in June 2024.

                        Here's an article that takes an in depth look at the case that Nexon filed against Ironmace:
                        https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2023/04/18/understanding-the-dark-and-darker-lawsuit/

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                        Damn. Did it still get put back onto steam? I remember seeing something about it being put back on steam, but I haven't really looked for it in a while.

                        Funny enough this is one of the early access games whose discord I follow, but I never pay attention to it

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                        • thcdenton@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                          It was good early on but my homie says it's pay2win trash now.

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                          Is "my homie" the new "some people say"?

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                            Damn. Did it still get put back onto steam? I remember seeing something about it being put back on steam, but I haven't really looked for it in a while.

                            Funny enough this is one of the early access games whose discord I follow, but I never pay attention to it

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                            Yeah, you can see it here:
                            https://store.steampowered.com/app/2016590/Dark_and_Darker/

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                            • L [email protected]

                              Isn't this the game that has a weird kernel anticheat which scrapes your entire PC every time it runs, hastening your storage device's demise?

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                              I did a quick search but couldn't find any issue with their anticheat.

                              From what I could find, it's not a kernel level anticheat.

                              As far as damaging hardware, reading from a drive doesn't really degrade it much at all, the bigger concern there would be if it was writing to your drive a ton (but honestly you should worry more about Window's Page File system since that makes it possible to use your storage drive as RAM).

                              I found a post from one player on the steam forums with concerns about the anticheat because their system kept crashing, but that sounded more like an isolated incident (or more likely related to the Intel CPU issue that was confirmed that same year).

                              There is a highly upvoted review for the game which has concerns about the anticheat reading all files on a drive and "overloading your processors (ignoring frame-rate caps and going past it)."

                              I agree that reading every file on a drive is concerning, I'd rather any anticheat stick to just the game's folders itself.

                              However, I'm wary about their understanding of programs/computers if they think that anti-cheat software should be limited by, or has anything to do with frame-rate caps. Also, they don't provide a source for any of their information or how they tested it.

                              Most other cocerns about anti-cheat quoted that same review in one way or another.

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                              • p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.comP [email protected]

                                Is "my homie" the new "some people say"?

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                                You want my to dox my bro?

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