No security by dividing EU from U.S. says Meloni
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"It is right for Europe to equip itself to play its part but gullible to think it can do so on its own, outside the framework" of NATO, noted Meloni.
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"It is right for Europe to equip itself to play its part but gullible to think it can do so on its own, outside the framework" of NATO, noted Meloni.
Oh, piss off - we're not the ones doing it; call your buddy Trump and tell him how you feel.
Also: Italy, should you please clean your fucking shit up?
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"It is right for Europe to equip itself to play its part but gullible to think it can do so on its own, outside the framework" of NATO, noted Meloni.
And who exactly is planning on invading Italy so badly that you need a trillion dollar US army to protect you?
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Oh, piss off - we're not the ones doing it; call your buddy Trump and tell him how you feel.
Also: Italy, should you please clean your fucking shit up?
Also: Italy, could you please clean your fucking shit up?
Did you miss the rally to show the will for a stronger European Union? And the “fight” to not use starlink? And people joking about the letters sent by DOGE? It’s not like everything is going downhill here, don’t be like a cocky American who reads some ragebaits headlines on social networks and thinks to know the world
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"It is right for Europe to equip itself to play its part but gullible to think it can do so on its own, outside the framework" of NATO, noted Meloni.
I don't remember the other conversation in which people here on Lemmy were praising Meloni for something pro-EU she said, and I had to remind everyone she is a literal fascist who professed herself friend of Orban and recently participated in the CPAC.
Never trust a fascist.
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And who exactly is planning on invading Italy so badly that you need a trillion dollar US army to protect you?
Probably america /s
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"It is right for Europe to equip itself to play its part but gullible to think it can do so on its own, outside the framework" of NATO, noted Meloni.
For everyone who isn’t aware who this is: Meloni is the current prime minister of Italy and a fascist bitch. Most things coming out of her mouth is utter bullshit.
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For everyone who isn’t aware who this is: Meloni is the current prime minister of Italy and a fascist bitch. Most things coming out of her mouth is utter bullshit.
ftr: "Fascist" - fine, because she represents a self-declared "post-fascist" pro-Mussolini party. However, "bitch" - is a gendered insult, thus essentially bigotry.
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And who exactly is planning on invading Italy so badly that you need a trillion dollar US army to protect you?
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"It is right for Europe to equip itself to play its part but gullible to think it can do so on its own, outside the framework" of NATO, noted Meloni.
Too bad it's not up to you, like at all. The only question is about being "caught flat-footed" by it.
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I don't remember the other conversation in which people here on Lemmy were praising Meloni for something pro-EU she said, and I had to remind everyone she is a literal fascist who professed herself friend of Orban and recently participated in the CPAC.
Never trust a fascist.
Yeah exactly. Meloni has ripped apart lesbian families already. She’s only pro-EU because she’s Italy First. Italy is in the EU. Right now, this suits her position.
But she also praised Trump when he was elected. And while she sees Putin as a threat to Italy, she is ideologically closer to Trump than she is to the EU in many ways.
I’ll take your word on her praising Orban. Meloni is sharp and she understands posture and signals. This is a signal.
Ultimately she’ll probably fall in line with the other fascists. I feel like Italy could flip to Axis/Anerica/Russia if it gets bad enough. Which is one of my long term fears.
So, I agree with you. I’m rooting for the EU. Italy hasn’t had a good leader in a very very long time.
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ftr: "Fascist" - fine, because she represents a self-declared "post-fascist" pro-Mussolini party. However, "bitch" - is a gendered insult, thus essentially bigotry.
Correction:
It's an insult to female dogs to refer to her as one.
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Yeah exactly. Meloni has ripped apart lesbian families already. She’s only pro-EU because she’s Italy First. Italy is in the EU. Right now, this suits her position.
But she also praised Trump when he was elected. And while she sees Putin as a threat to Italy, she is ideologically closer to Trump than she is to the EU in many ways.
I’ll take your word on her praising Orban. Meloni is sharp and she understands posture and signals. This is a signal.
Ultimately she’ll probably fall in line with the other fascists. I feel like Italy could flip to Axis/Anerica/Russia if it gets bad enough. Which is one of my long term fears.
So, I agree with you. I’m rooting for the EU. Italy hasn’t had a good leader in a very very long time.
I agree with almost everything you say, except for her seeing Putin as a threat.
In Italy there is a surprisingly diffused narrative that sees Russians as the best estimators, and therefore lovers, of Italy.And that is true in the same way as locusts are the best estimators and lovers of crops.
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I agree with almost everything you say, except for her seeing Putin as a threat.
In Italy there is a surprisingly diffused narrative that sees Russians as the best estimators, and therefore lovers, of Italy.And that is true in the same way as locusts are the best estimators and lovers of crops.
Oh that’s interesting. Thank you it’s great to know. I was just quoting Meloni directly—she’s stated verbatim in speeches last September (if my memory is correct) that she sees Russia as a threat. Now, do we take her word for it? Probably not. Probably not. It was a my a talk about EU/Nato defense spending.
I agree with you here-she’s absolutely saying one thing to the EU and keeping a backup plan with Putin. That’s what I really think too.
It’s funny you mention Locusts. I mentioned this analogy to someone recently. I see it exactly the same. Locusts triggering serotonin spikes in otherwise normal grasshoppers to join their locust swarm. And the swarm consumes and eats everything. And then when there’s nothing left to eat they eat each other and die.
Lack of territory, lack of resource, and high population density make locusts. I don’t think we are that much different .
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Oh that’s interesting. Thank you it’s great to know. I was just quoting Meloni directly—she’s stated verbatim in speeches last September (if my memory is correct) that she sees Russia as a threat. Now, do we take her word for it? Probably not. Probably not. It was a my a talk about EU/Nato defense spending.
I agree with you here-she’s absolutely saying one thing to the EU and keeping a backup plan with Putin. That’s what I really think too.
It’s funny you mention Locusts. I mentioned this analogy to someone recently. I see it exactly the same. Locusts triggering serotonin spikes in otherwise normal grasshoppers to join their locust swarm. And the swarm consumes and eats everything. And then when there’s nothing left to eat they eat each other and die.
Lack of territory, lack of resource, and high population density make locusts. I don’t think we are that much different .
They came for the crops, and I didn't care because I was not a crop...
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ftr: "Fascist" - fine, because she represents a self-declared "post-fascist" pro-Mussolini party. However, "bitch" - is a gendered insult, thus essentially bigotry.
Exactly. If she had been a he, he would have Beena fascist dick. What's your point?
Stop being so obsessed with words when you know perfectly well what people mean to say
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