Ubi, it's $70 and people are vary of your mile wide puddles that drop 75% in price after half a year
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Lol as good as the production looked even as a white dude I kind of cracked up at Tommy in that role.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byI thought so too in the beginning. But the English character in that series is more of a... Useful tool that gets used. He has no agency and he never realises it throughout the entire series.
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Say what you will about the white savior trope, but wasn't there a historical reason for Tom Cruise's character to be there? Japan was accepting foreign influence and modernization at that time, from what I know of history.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byExcept The Last Samurai isn't remotely historical.
Tom Cruise's is very roughly based in a French admiral. That admiral got sent specifically to Japan to create political relations with a certain faction of Samurai to further French interests there. The French admiral was made samurai as honorary title and put into service of the household.
During the final battle (which was a castle siege, and both sides were using guns), the French admiral was released from service and sent home.
If a movie or a series were to be made of this, and if it were to be somewhat accurate, it'd be closer to a political thriller with some battles in between.
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Except The Last Samurai isn't remotely historical.
Tom Cruise's is very roughly based in a French admiral. That admiral got sent specifically to Japan to create political relations with a certain faction of Samurai to further French interests there. The French admiral was made samurai as honorary title and put into service of the household.
During the final battle (which was a castle siege, and both sides were using guns), the French admiral was released from service and sent home.
If a movie or a series were to be made of this, and if it were to be somewhat accurate, it'd be closer to a political thriller with some battles in between.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byGood thing I was expecting historical fiction then and not a documentary or even a dramatization of true events.
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Hardly ruin, you have to purposefully go find them gloating over Steam charts. But it's too funny that people really have choice enough now in the good graphics segment that Ubisoft is sinking. It's my fault, I cursed them when they left Steam for their 4-UAC-prompts-whenever-you-start PoS. They showed total contempt for their users with Breakpoint, tried an nft grift on the side, evolved all cosmetics to clown shoes level and totally failed to offer anything new. Where's Reflextions? Stuff like Grow Up / Home, metroidvanias on UbiArt Framework? They have great 3D engines and can't keep a team happy or unfired enough to have people that know how to use it and optimize a game and are able to take some risks with game design. It's all either heavily monetized multiplayer dreck or incremental QoL features in ever larger and shallower sandboxes in one of few large franchise flavors. There's not that much to discuss, woo bamboo cutting tech, a new coat of paint and some gimmicks. People claiming it's failing because it's either woke or culture appropriating are ascribing cultural import to a happy meal.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byI agree, I skipped over the latest Prince of Persia for a while because "eww Ubisoft", but it really is a great mteroidvania.
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Why do people manufacture arguments like this? Who is arguing that one is okay while the other isn’t? A couple random people on the Internet?
The only thing I can think of is The Last Samurai is a 20 year old movie and that somehow means not bringing up this historic fictional movie = you’re okay about a white dude becoming a samurai but not okay about a black dude becoming a samurai.
Whataboutism at its finest.
Did it not occur to this person that perhaps some people just don’t care about the movie, haven’t seen the movie, or plain just didn’t bring it up because it’s a movie? Is it “double standards” for one to pick their battles and not be enraged at everything all the time? My god this shit is exhausting.
Disclaimer: I have no opinion on the game itself because I frankly don’t care about it because I’m not the biggest Ubisoft fan outside of Rayman. Nor does the above necessarily reflect my opinion on the game’s history accuracy. I’ve always loved The Last Samurai and Memoirs of a Geisha though and find both beautiful and touching films, so make of that as you will.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byIt is a fighting game with stereotypical characters. Not historically accurate in any way. This is astroturfing by some org that wants racial in fighting
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Good thing I was expecting historical fiction then and not a documentary or even a dramatization of true events.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byIt can be a bit of both. You can tell a good story that also stays true to the historical events. Not being being able to do that shows a lack of skill and imagination.
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It can be a bit of both. You can tell a good story that also stays true to the historical events. Not being being able to do that shows a lack of skill and imagination.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byAre you telling me The Last Samurai wasn't skillfully made or imaginative? Nah, it was no masterpiece, but I liked it just fine. Having some westerners in Japan training their military on modern weaponry as the samurai are fading from relevance passes my threshold for "remotely historical", and it's definitely not a requirement for me that Tom Cruise's character needs to have an American historical analog to meet that criteria. Any historical fiction will inherently have to change things about what actually happened in that era, after all.
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he die didn't save shit though
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I might be terribly incorrect.
But i remember that Tom Cruise's character switches sides in the movie after spending time with the Samurai (He was captured by them). He trains under them and becomes a Samurai. In the end, they fight against the (British?) and lose due to a gattling gun. All the Samurai die except for Tom's character.
So symbolically, Tom is the Last Samurai.wrote 27 days ago last edited byIt is implied that Tom Cruise dies at the end. I think the confusion comes from a voice over, but you never see the character on screen again.
He also does not "become a samurai". He fights alongside them, but at no point do they call him a samurai.
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What did he save? Literally everyone but Meiji-backed forces dies at the end.
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Are you telling me The Last Samurai wasn't skillfully made or imaginative? Nah, it was no masterpiece, but I liked it just fine. Having some westerners in Japan training their military on modern weaponry as the samurai are fading from relevance passes my threshold for "remotely historical", and it's definitely not a requirement for me that Tom Cruise's character needs to have an American historical analog to meet that criteria. Any historical fiction will inherently have to change things about what actually happened in that era, after all.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byIt was not skillfully made or imaginative. It was a very basic toybox of exotic nonsense about Samurai wrapped around a premise similar to Dances With Wolves.
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It is implied that Tom Cruise dies at the end. I think the confusion comes from a voice over, but you never see the character on screen again.
He also does not "become a samurai". He fights alongside them, but at no point do they call him a samurai.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byHe also does not "become a samurai"
Correct. That's why I said symbolically.
but you never see the character on screen again
I maybe incorrect but towards the end of the movie, the Emperor asks how Katsumoto died, to which Tom Cruise replies "I'll tell you how he lived". So he was alive?
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It was not skillfully made or imaginative. It was a very basic toybox of exotic nonsense about Samurai wrapped around a premise similar to Dances With Wolves.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byI think you missed the sarcasm in the rhetorical question, but yes. It's one of at least three or four movies I've seen utilizing the Dances With Wolves trope, though I've never seen Dances With Wolves itself, and that's okay. It was entertaining.
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He also does not "become a samurai"
Correct. That's why I said symbolically.
but you never see the character on screen again
I maybe incorrect but towards the end of the movie, the Emperor asks how Katsumoto died, to which Tom Cruise replies "I'll tell you how he lived". So he was alive?
wrote 27 days ago last edited byHm, I may need to rewatch it myself. That also doesn't match what the link above suggests about interpreting the ending: "Algren finds redemption through his newfound purpose and ultimately sacrifices his life for the cause he once opposed."
Edit: I just checked the last scene. You're right, he doesn't actually die. Which means the link is also wrong.
Still, I think it's a stretch to say he's the last samurai, since he never really becomes a samurai. One important note is that samurai is "samurai" in the plural, too.
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The only thing I can think of is The Last Samurai is a 20 year old movie and that somehow means not bringing up this historic fictional movie = you’re okay about a white dude becoming a samurai but not okay about a black dude becoming a samurai.
You should watch the movie. Cruise's character does not become a samurai. He spends time with the last samurai.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byYou should read the rest of my post. You would have learned that I have watched it.
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You should read the rest of my post. You would have learned that I have watched it.
wrote 27 days ago last edited byIf that was true then why did you completely misstate what the movie was about? Cruise does not become a samurai at any point.
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It can be a bit of both. You can tell a good story that also stays true to the historical events. Not being being able to do that shows a lack of skill and imagination.
wrote 25 days ago last edited byTo tell a story history is not binding. It neither a lack of skill or imagination - it's an intended. What you have shown is a lack of understanding of the art of telling a story.
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