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Ukraine President Zelenskiy accuses China of supplying Russia with weapons

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    • Ukraine president says China providing artillery and gunpowder
    • Zelenskiy also says Beijing helping make weapons in Russia
    • Beijing accused of direct military aid for Russia for first time
    • Russia waging a more than three-year-old invasion of Ukraine
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      • Zelenskiy also says Beijing helping make weapons in Russia
      • Beijing accused of direct military aid for Russia for first time
      • Russia waging a more than three-year-old invasion of Ukraine
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      Kind of makes sense. Same mentality in China and Russia.

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        • Zelenskiy also says Beijing helping make weapons in Russia
        • Beijing accused of direct military aid for Russia for first time
        • Russia waging a more than three-year-old invasion of Ukraine
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        China has been accused time and time again.

        This is from July 2023: https://www.politico.eu/article/china-firms-russia-body-armor-bullet-proof-drones-thermal-optics-army-equipment-shanghai-h-win/

        This is from May 2024:
        https://www.bbc.com/news/60571253

        I'm afraid Europe can't and won't let go of their big trade partner as long as China keeps a 'low profile' in the war. We are supporting our side much more then China supports their side. China might lie about their support of Russia, but I think secret service agents and government officials know the extent of Chinese involvement. But it's a good thing media is putting pressure on western governments.

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          Kind of makes sense. Same mentality in China and Russia.

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          Europe might find a bunch of small allies all over the world though, democracies hanging on thight against autocratic bullies. We, the people of all free countries, just need to stick together as much as possible.

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            • Ukraine president says China providing artillery and gunpowder
            • Zelenskiy also says Beijing helping make weapons in Russia
            • Beijing accused of direct military aid for Russia for first time
            • Russia waging a more than three-year-old invasion of Ukraine
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            Ukraine hits Chinese firms with sanctions after accusing Beijing of arming Russia

            The [sanctions] list [...] named Beijing Aviation And Aerospace Xianghui Technology Co. Ltd, Rui Jin Machinery Co. Ltd, and Zhongfu Shenying Carbon Fiber Xining Co. Ltd, all described as registered in China.

            It did not give details of why they had been added to the sanctions list, which bans companies from doing business in Ukraine and freezes their assets there.

            Ukraine exported $8 billion of goods to China in 2021, mostly raw materials and agricultural products, while it imported from China just under $11 billion, mainly in manufactured goods, according to the Ukrainian government.

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              Kind of makes sense. Same mentality in China and Russia.

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              I think it's a bit reductionist to say "similar mentalities". They're both authoritarian states, but that's pretty much where it ends.

              Putin's Russia is all about reviving the Russian Empire and reliving past glories. China is capitalist through and through. They want to own world trade. As such they do not share goals, and if there is an alliance it will be a utilitarian one and probably short lived after it's usefulness has ended.

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                China has been accused time and time again.

                This is from July 2023: https://www.politico.eu/article/china-firms-russia-body-armor-bullet-proof-drones-thermal-optics-army-equipment-shanghai-h-win/

                This is from May 2024:
                https://www.bbc.com/news/60571253

                I'm afraid Europe can't and won't let go of their big trade partner as long as China keeps a 'low profile' in the war. We are supporting our side much more then China supports their side. China might lie about their support of Russia, but I think secret service agents and government officials know the extent of Chinese involvement. But it's a good thing media is putting pressure on western governments.

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                So far it's been contained by hitting supply routes between the two. The rail line in particular is vulnerable due to the terrain it runs through.

                I suspect the China is quite happy to sell arms, but doesn't want to actually enter the war.

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                  So far it's been contained by hitting supply routes between the two. The rail line in particular is vulnerable due to the terrain it runs through.

                  I suspect the China is quite happy to sell arms, but doesn't want to actually enter the war.

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                  So far it's been contained by hitting supply routes between the two. The rail line in particular is vulnerable due to the terrain it runs through.

                  Do you mean trade between China and Russia is being sabotaged? If so, by who? Isn't their border like 1,000s of km long?

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                    So far it's been contained by hitting supply routes between the two. The rail line in particular is vulnerable due to the terrain it runs through.

                    Do you mean trade between China and Russia is being sabotaged? If so, by who? Isn't their border like 1,000s of km long?

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                    https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-security-service-blew-up-main-railway-connection-between-russia-china/

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