How ok would you be if teleported right now into a field in Peru in the 1300s with... (see description)?
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I speak Spanish so I would be fine
I think the important part for you would be, "In the 1300s..."
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I speak Spanish so I would be fine
The first Spanish speaker to step foot in the area now known as Peru didn't happen until 1513, 200 years after this hypothetical arrival date for you.
Do you speak Quecha?
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If something you can't fix breaks ?
Sure, I'm not going to be replacing any modern consumables or modern tech. And the LiFePO4 cells are ultimately going to wear out. The solar cells will lose generation capacity. But I'll probably be long dead before that capacity becomes a concern. Hopefully the hardcopy books don't get wet, because that's where I keep the stuff I don't keep in my head.
That said, there's very little I can't fix on my boat. I did all of the work in my complete refit. If you know any open ocean sailors or sailboat delivery captains, we are a ridiculously resourceful bunch. Prepared AF. Kinda like the Eagle Scouts of the sea. Also, our gear is robust, resilient, and fault tolerant.
We sit around and practice this shit. There's not much else to do out in the ocean.
"Oh, your refrigerator compressor died." I've got a brand new, spare compressor and a second refrigerator; move the most critical foods accordingly. "The second fridge died." Immediately switch to non-refrigeration food preservation techniques. "You're running critically low on salt." Use the brine rejection from the watermaker. And so on. Because of all the interlocking dependencies on sailboats, we have failover modes all the way down to tarring the hull and weaving hemp lines. Okay, not that far, but you get the idea. -
The first Spanish speaker to step foot in the area now known as Peru didn't happen until 1513, 200 years after this hypothetical arrival date for you.
Do you speak Quecha?
Yep, that's the joke
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Sure, I'm not going to be replacing any modern consumables or modern tech. And the LiFePO4 cells are ultimately going to wear out. The solar cells will lose generation capacity. But I'll probably be long dead before that capacity becomes a concern. Hopefully the hardcopy books don't get wet, because that's where I keep the stuff I don't keep in my head.
That said, there's very little I can't fix on my boat. I did all of the work in my complete refit. If you know any open ocean sailors or sailboat delivery captains, we are a ridiculously resourceful bunch. Prepared AF. Kinda like the Eagle Scouts of the sea. Also, our gear is robust, resilient, and fault tolerant.
We sit around and practice this shit. There's not much else to do out in the ocean.
"Oh, your refrigerator compressor died." I've got a brand new, spare compressor and a second refrigerator; move the most critical foods accordingly. "The second fridge died." Immediately switch to non-refrigeration food preservation techniques. "You're running critically low on salt." Use the brine rejection from the watermaker. And so on. Because of all the interlocking dependencies on sailboats, we have failover modes all the way down to tarring the hull and weaving hemp lines. Okay, not that far, but you get the idea.This lifestyle looks very interesting. Thanks for sharing !
Are there any ressources on the internet to look a bit more into it ?
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Yeah—I was basing that claim on Joseph Henrich’s survey of expeditions in The Secret of Our Success: How Culture Is Driving Human Evolution, Domesticating Our Species, and Making Us Smarter.
Sounds like a good read, maybe I'll check it out
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A) Nothing, just totally naked
B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag
C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)
I'm naked right now so all of these options leave me naked.
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A) Nothing, just totally naked
B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag
C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)
Hmm.
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Absolutely fucked
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Still absolutely fucked
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Ok for awhile I think. Until I was captured and killed for being some sort of impossible demon, or sacrificed as a prize because of unusual looks. Knives, tools to barter, rope, food. Nothing particularly good for hunting with.
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Yep, that's the joke
Either I'm whooshed so hard I'm in a new reality or it just simply wasn't particularly funny
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Yep, that's the joke
Lol, /s is your friend I think.
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Either I'm whooshed so hard I'm in a new reality or it just simply wasn't particularly funny
I was mildly amused.
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Hmm.
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Absolutely fucked
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Still absolutely fucked
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Ok for awhile I think. Until I was captured and killed for being some sort of impossible demon, or sacrificed as a prize because of unusual looks. Knives, tools to barter, rope, food. Nothing particularly good for hunting with.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Eh, cut them some slack. When the Spanish showed up sitting on top of wild animals, covered in metal and on an impossibly, comically large boat, the Aztecs toyed with the idea it was something supernatural, but figured out it was just more assholes pretty quickly. In this scenario, you're merely weird-looking and unintelligible.
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A) Nothing, just totally naked
B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag
C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)
wrote on last edited by [email protected]A) Depends entirely on how long the locals put up with my uselessness. I might just die of diarrhea too, considering I have nil immunity to local germs and there's no sanitation.
B) My clothes are now the finest textiles on earth, and I carry a multitool. In some ways, it might actually be better if I was naked and pitiful. Maybe they'll take me seriously long enough that I can build something for them, or find a kind of type clerical work that they actually need. Or, maybe they immediately rob me, kill me and dispose of the body before the other pale giants show up.
C) Hmm, more interesting in a sense, although in many ways it's just a bigger version of the clothes problem. I couldn't really defend my house if they decide not to respect my ownership (and why would they? it was feudal times). And a whole building appearing from thing air is pretty much proof magic is afoot, which can go multiple ways.
If they decide to humour me, I could do serious work for them pretty much immediately. These are people who still do a lot of things with stone tools. I can also introduce them to some new crops.
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A) Depends entirely on how long the locals put up with my uselessness. I might just die of diarrhea too, considering I have nil immunity to local germs and there's no sanitation.
B) My clothes are now the finest textiles on earth, and I carry a multitool. In some ways, it might actually be better if I was naked and pitiful. Maybe they'll take me seriously long enough that I can build something for them, or find a kind of type clerical work that they actually need. Or, maybe they immediately rob me, kill me and dispose of the body before the other pale giants show up.
C) Hmm, more interesting in a sense, although in many ways it's just a bigger version of the clothes problem. I couldn't really defend my house if they decide not to respect my ownership (and why would they? it was feudal times). And a whole building appearing from thing air is pretty much proof magic is afoot, which can go multiple ways.
If they decide to humour me, I could do serious work for them pretty much immediately. These are people who still do a lot of things with stone tools. I can also introduce them to some new crops.
The diarrhea is going to be one of the biggest challenges. The differences is food, parasite/microbiota challenges... dehydration and acclimating to the local food supply are going to present problems.
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The diarrhea is going to be one of the biggest challenges. The differences is food, parasite/microbiota challenges... dehydration and acclimating to the local food supply are going to present problems.
You'll probably be killed for washing your hands before eating or something.
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This lifestyle looks very interesting. Thanks for sharing !
Are there any ressources on the internet to look a bit more into it ?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Depends on which context in which you're interested. Internet? Hm... For the refit part and thinking through/designing for all of these factors, maybe The Duracell Project (https://www.youtube.com/@TheDuracellProject/videos). Most of the people I know actually doing this stuff are... actually doing it. There's not a lot of time and bandwidth to create an accessible internet resource. And the seriously salty folk, most of them barely have email. Among my sailing peers, I'm the most technologically capable, and that's not saying much.
We tend to eschew the high tech that invariably will let us down when we most need it. Much of seafaring knowledge and skills are born from hard experience and sitting around getting drunk with old salts, which is its own kind of hard experience. You start small, push the limits, break shit, find fixes in order get back to port, and find what works for you with what you have at hand. Anything you couldn't fix, you go to your marina neighbors or the internet to find jury-rigs for that specific failure mode. In your day-to-day life, learning some basic knots, how to make whoopie slings and soft shackles with Dyneema, wilderness first aid, wilderness first responder training, even basic disaster preparedness all help change your perspective on how you approach your day. For example, drilling for natural disaster response, at least for me, shifts my mindset into a "what could go wrong," "what are the failure modes of [this critical component]" way of thinking. These are aspects you can explore without a boat or having wilderness nearby.
I haven't watched a lot of her stuff, but Wind Hippie Sailing (https://www.youtube.com/@WindHippieSailing/videos) is a seriously badass solo dirtbagger (not a pejorative; it's technical term cribbed from rock climbing). Solo sailors are a breed apart and a few steps above the rest of us salty dogs who have crew.
Downloaded to my Kiwix app or installed on phone/tablet and mirrored across a bunch of backup devices:
- 100 Rabbits
- Ready.gov
- Animated Knots
- U.S. Army Ranger Handbook (hard to ignore 200 years of military refinement)
- Survival Manual (sadly no longer available)
Now if you're okay with books, lots of great resources there.
- "Sailing Alone Around the World" by Joshua Slocum
- "Sailing a Serious Ocean" by John Kretschmer
- "Cruising in Serrafyn," "The Self Sufficient Sailor," "The Capable Cruiser" by Larry and Lyn Pardey; hell, almost all of their books are great reads; they sailed the world for decades with almost no electric and no engine
- "Where There Is No Doctor and "Where There Is No Dentist," Hesperian Health Guides
- "Annapolis Book of Seamanship" by John Rousmaniere
- Just about anything by Fatty Goodlander, funny stories on the dirtbagging lifestyle
Let me know if you any additional questions. Happy to share.
Edit to add: Practical Sailor (https://www.practical-sailor.com/), a great internet resource . JFC, how did I forget that?!
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Depends on which context in which you're interested. Internet? Hm... For the refit part and thinking through/designing for all of these factors, maybe The Duracell Project (https://www.youtube.com/@TheDuracellProject/videos). Most of the people I know actually doing this stuff are... actually doing it. There's not a lot of time and bandwidth to create an accessible internet resource. And the seriously salty folk, most of them barely have email. Among my sailing peers, I'm the most technologically capable, and that's not saying much.
We tend to eschew the high tech that invariably will let us down when we most need it. Much of seafaring knowledge and skills are born from hard experience and sitting around getting drunk with old salts, which is its own kind of hard experience. You start small, push the limits, break shit, find fixes in order get back to port, and find what works for you with what you have at hand. Anything you couldn't fix, you go to your marina neighbors or the internet to find jury-rigs for that specific failure mode. In your day-to-day life, learning some basic knots, how to make whoopie slings and soft shackles with Dyneema, wilderness first aid, wilderness first responder training, even basic disaster preparedness all help change your perspective on how you approach your day. For example, drilling for natural disaster response, at least for me, shifts my mindset into a "what could go wrong," "what are the failure modes of [this critical component]" way of thinking. These are aspects you can explore without a boat or having wilderness nearby.
I haven't watched a lot of her stuff, but Wind Hippie Sailing (https://www.youtube.com/@WindHippieSailing/videos) is a seriously badass solo dirtbagger (not a pejorative; it's technical term cribbed from rock climbing). Solo sailors are a breed apart and a few steps above the rest of us salty dogs who have crew.
Downloaded to my Kiwix app or installed on phone/tablet and mirrored across a bunch of backup devices:
- 100 Rabbits
- Ready.gov
- Animated Knots
- U.S. Army Ranger Handbook (hard to ignore 200 years of military refinement)
- Survival Manual (sadly no longer available)
Now if you're okay with books, lots of great resources there.
- "Sailing Alone Around the World" by Joshua Slocum
- "Sailing a Serious Ocean" by John Kretschmer
- "Cruising in Serrafyn," "The Self Sufficient Sailor," "The Capable Cruiser" by Larry and Lyn Pardey; hell, almost all of their books are great reads; they sailed the world for decades with almost no electric and no engine
- "Where There Is No Doctor and "Where There Is No Dentist," Hesperian Health Guides
- "Annapolis Book of Seamanship" by John Rousmaniere
- Just about anything by Fatty Goodlander, funny stories on the dirtbagging lifestyle
Let me know if you any additional questions. Happy to share.
Edit to add: Practical Sailor (https://www.practical-sailor.com/), a great internet resource . JFC, how did I forget that?!
Thank you for the long and detailed answer ! I’ll sure go check those out
Take this Lemmy Silver
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You'll probably be killed for washing your hands before eating or something.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Eh. Some traditional cultures do that anyway. I highly doubt they'd freak out over it, let alone to the point of violence.
They might think you're weird, and you're probably going to have to gather your own washing water, though. And if they're doing clean hand/dirty hand you should respect it also.
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A) Nothing, just totally naked
B) What you're wearing and anything you carry with you (even if you're not carrying it right now) like a bag
C) What you're wearing, what you carry with you, and the contents of your home (it will be teleported within a few hundred metres on the surface in an accessible location, but obviously won't be connected to any services like electricity or water)
wrote on last edited by [email protected]A) Probably okay-ish? I was in the scouts and I'm not completely incompetent at being outdoorsy.
B) Overnight bag probably isn't much help. At least my breath will be minty.
C) Enjoy the new timeline bitches, because I am now the 14th century's most powerful military.
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A) I'm very resourceful and have formal wilderness training, but naked and completely foreign environs... Probably not going to do so well, especially if the weather is harsh.
B) Pretty well. My backpack is my bag of tricks and my daily loadout includes my multitool, an IFAK, some clothing layers, and two water bottles. But it's still going to be a challenge because of completely foreign environs.
C) Perfectly awesome, living my best life. My home is my sailboat with solar, 40000Wh battery storage, water makers, extensive first aid, dried food and spices, and more books, movies, and video games than I could possibly finish in my remaining years.
You win.
