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Have you ever cheated on a test?

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    I knew of someone who kind of did, depending on which way you look at it. Only for one question though...

    He noticed that the answer to a single question, was literally written on his otherwise exam-compliant calculator a few weeks before the exam, for high school math. The question often came up in practice tests. This calculator wasn't programmable (in the sense you could store answers).

    The question?

    How many kilometres in a nautical mile? Answer: 1.852.

    He figured out that the numbers in the centre row of the calculator lined up exactly with the decimal fraction:

    7 8 9

    4 5 6

    1 2 3

    So he drew a line around the calculator pad to link those numbers up. None of the teachers picked it up, as it looked like graffiti.

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    That seems like more of a mnemonic than cheating, and isn't that a bit of a silly question for an exam? Unless it's asking you to derive how many kilometres in a nautical mile from something, exams shouldn't be testing rote memory.

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      No. Learning stuff is important.

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        No, I haven't. Never felt the need to do it.

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          So in high school, we had TI-84 programmable calculators. Those could be used to store text. The teachers knew about that capability, so when there was a test where we were allowed to use the calculator, they wiped the memory of each one at the start of the test. However, I found that there was an app you could install called "fake", where you could restore all your saved data after a supposed memory wipe by entering a predefined numerical code. Teachers never knew that method existed. I may or may not have used that functionality a couple times. I don't feel bad about it, as memorizing some physics formulae would have never been any use for me in my later life anyway.

          Don't know if it counts as cheating, but in uni there were some professors who reused exams all the time. Some students set up a download server where you could download all previous exams and its solutions. Pretty sure the professors knew about it as well, but were still to lazy to come up with new exams I guess. So as we were allowed to bring a hand-written sheet of paper with notes (which is a way better policy than all the memorization in high school), I just had all the solutions on there.

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            Na, tests were too much fun to waste on cheating.

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              Regrettably not

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                No, of course not! Never!!
                Oh, wait, is this here a test at all?

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                  No. I've never really been in a class where someone else had a deeper understanding of the material to cheat off of. Equal sometimes, sure, but equally likely to be wrong.

                  I did reach a point in math where I couldn't go further and took that as a sign. Math is math. If I can't do it in a test, I'd just be putting myself in a situation where I'm expected to do things I can't — most likely in the next class.

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                    I used to cheat the credit system by taking mind-blowingly easy exams from management courses (they're literally all the same) or from business studies (half of them are like maths for dummies). Weird minor courses were extra fun, and sometimes actually interesting to do read a book for.

                    Zero studying, just sign up for the course if it doesn't have an attendance requirement, take the test, free credit! Sometimes you could even shape those wildly unrelated courses into a Minor, which I how I have 4 minors on my diploma (1 normal one, 3 Frankenminors I assembled myself out of whatever I had already).

                    I used to do that with a few friends, and we almost got in trouble once for telling the truth ("no, showing up to class isn't mandatory and we're pretty sure we can pass the exam with zero effort"). There were zero rules against this, and the only harm was to the professor's egos, but I did get several stern talkings to.

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                      Yes, kinda.

                      I was in an entry-level “database” class that was administered online. I took it as padding to get credits to fulfill a requirement after switching majors. I figured it would be easy because I had a few years of on the job experience with databases.
                      Although it was still the early days of online learning, my school did have a comprehensive online learning platform. The teacher was self-taught, and hosted the course on their personal website. While we did have a book and a syllabus, the actual course focused on how the teacher knew how to use Microsoft Access.
                      They graded based on assignments that they handed out all at once at the beginning of the semester, plus tests. I did the entire semester’s homework in about 2 hours the first week, but found I kept missing test questions. After each test, it showed you the expected answers, and they often made little sense (not wrong, just weird – using anachronistic names for things, or the question was very specific about where menu options were that weren’t there anymore). You could retake the test as many times as you wanted (I don’t know if that was a bug or not), but I didn’t have that kind of time. So I just viewed source, where he’d clearly labeled each correct answer, and more or less skipped through the dumb quizzes.

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                        Only once. By remembering more-or-less all answers to a test that were given by a professor.

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                          I don't believe I have ever cheated on an exam or big test, but there were a few cases in college where teachers would leave answers for homework or projects unsecured, and I did make use of it whenever I came across it.

                          One such case was in an introductory computer science course. We had a weekly lab session where the teaching assistant was giving us an overview of using the Unix systems at the university. At one point early on, he was teaching about file and folder permissions, and gave us all access to his personal folder. And... Then he forgot to lock the permissions back up. His folder was fully accessible for the entire semester, and he posted full solutions to every programming project there.

                          I remember another course where the professor would send us a link to the solutions to the homework problems, after he finished grading the homework. But I learned that I could just change the URL to access all of the future homework answers.

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                            My university would keep past exam papers in the library. This was apparently a little known fact, but somehow we discovered it, went and got them and use them as the basis for revision.

                            Turns out our professors were lazy and used the same exam every year. Does that count as cheating?

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                              I don't believe I have ever cheated on an exam or big test, but there were a few cases in college where teachers would leave answers for homework or projects unsecured, and I did make use of it whenever I came across it.

                              One such case was in an introductory computer science course. We had a weekly lab session where the teaching assistant was giving us an overview of using the Unix systems at the university. At one point early on, he was teaching about file and folder permissions, and gave us all access to his personal folder. And... Then he forgot to lock the permissions back up. His folder was fully accessible for the entire semester, and he posted full solutions to every programming project there.

                              I remember another course where the professor would send us a link to the solutions to the homework problems, after he finished grading the homework. But I learned that I could just change the URL to access all of the future homework answers.

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                              I kinda think it's often on purpose when teachers do that. I guess it's one way to raise the average grades, with plausible deniability that it may have been accidental.

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                                My university would keep past exam papers in the library. This was apparently a little known fact, but somehow we discovered it, went and got them and use them as the basis for revision.

                                Turns out our professors were lazy and used the same exam every year. Does that count as cheating?

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                                If the school provided the material, you didn't bring anything to the test that you weren't allowed to, and nobody told you not to utilize the files in the library, then you didn't cheat

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                                  Kind of. A college professor assigned a programming assignment for homework which I swear we had not covered the material required to implement it in class. They had however lazily assigned it from the textbook. So I went onto eMule (I know, right?) and found to teacher's guide and worked backwards from the solution to try to understand it. Then I wrote my own solution. It still didn't work perfectly though lol.

                                  Oh once in high school, the smart kid memorised the multiple choice answers to the science test which they had in first period. They shared it at lunch time. We all memorised it or wrote it on something like an eraser. Needless to say, the next day, the whole class was given a new test and a firm talking to.

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                                    Yeah. My D average, undiagnosed ADHD brain wasn't about to let me make it through high school the conventional route.

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                                      Yeah. My D average, undiagnosed ADHD brain wasn't about to let me make it through high school the conventional route.

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                                      same thing.

                                      ADHD makes highschool a nightmare.

                                      if it wasn't for cheating in tests I would have failed highschool even harder. I did end up failing anyways, the kicker. the hypoerfocus I used to make my cheating utensil ended up being great study. so when I prepared for cheating I ended up doing fine, even if I didn't use any cheats in the test.

                                      I'm not stupid, and ended up getting a GED (I wasn't American, but it counted as highschool and it was so much easier to attain, and opened the doors to UNI), got a bachelors, and then a PhD.

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                                        Only once. By remembering more-or-less all answers to a test that were given by a professor.

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                                        Isn't that just... Learning?

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                                          No. Learning stuff is important.

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                                          Not always. I don't need to learn the exact year some dude wrote some book, or what his feelings about death were, or the day some battle happened.

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