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  • W [email protected]

    Aurora is not a rolling release. It's part of Universal Blue, based on Fedora Silverblue.

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    Okay, let's call it a semi-rolling release. Having breaking changes every 6 months is still very often for a set-and-forget system.

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      Any recommendations for a linux distro that i can set up and be reasonably sure my non techy SO won't break accidentally? The set up doesn't have to be easy it just has to not break once I leave her alone with it. My first thought was popOS.

      My plan is to have 2 profiles and not give her access to sudo. I just don't want to have to go into it unless she needs a new program.

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      I've installed popOS to a couple of relatives, haven't had anty issues for a year so far. Can definately recommend!

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      • absgeeknz@lemmy.nzA [email protected]

        Mint.

        I have my mum (67) and my partner using it.

        Libre office and Firefox cover 99.9% of all the things mum actually does.

        My partner uses blender, krita and audacity also.

        Auto updates... Almost no tech support.

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        Linux mint makes sense. Auto updates and its hastle free for non techy person like me.

        Even if I'm doing something crazy , chatgpt to the rescue.

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        • H [email protected]

          Any recommendations for a linux distro that i can set up and be reasonably sure my non techy SO won't break accidentally? The set up doesn't have to be easy it just has to not break once I leave her alone with it. My first thought was popOS.

          My plan is to have 2 profiles and not give her access to sudo. I just don't want to have to go into it unless she needs a new program.

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          Semi-serious suggestion: Guix or NixOS. They're not break-safe per se, but if they do break something, you can use the OS' previous generations to go back to an operational state. Just... don't let them use the commands that delete older generations.

          (Semi-serious because they're both not exactly mainstream and not eactly conventional in their setup.)

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          • dogsoahc@lemm.eeD [email protected]

            Semi-serious suggestion: Guix or NixOS. They're not break-safe per se, but if they do break something, you can use the OS' previous generations to go back to an operational state. Just... don't let them use the commands that delete older generations.

            (Semi-serious because they're both not exactly mainstream and not eactly conventional in their setup.)

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            Yep, NixOS as a base + some Flatpak store for installing apps. In fact, use impermanence to just drop all OS state apart from logs, network settings and flatpaks. That way, "turn it off and then on again" will almost always work to fix the OS.

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              Any recommendations for a linux distro that i can set up and be reasonably sure my non techy SO won't break accidentally? The set up doesn't have to be easy it just has to not break once I leave her alone with it. My first thought was popOS.

              My plan is to have 2 profiles and not give her access to sudo. I just don't want to have to go into it unless she needs a new program.

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              Fedora Silverblue.

              Or really any immutable OS; they would have to go way out of their way to even edit system files, much less break the system. I just recommend Silverblue because gnome is really hard for an inexperienced user to break.

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              • A [email protected]

                Now that's an extreme choice 😄

                Doing a lot of tech support, don't you?

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                Nope! Everything just works and it's rock solid. It's also been my daily driver for over 20 years.

                I was doing a lot of tech support when my wife was on endeavouros and my daughter was on bazzite. Tbf, my problems with bazzite were probably down to me not understanding the immutable distro concept.

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                • downhomechunk@midwest.socialD [email protected]

                  Nope! Everything just works and it's rock solid. It's also been my daily driver for over 20 years.

                  I was doing a lot of tech support when my wife was on endeavouros and my daughter was on bazzite. Tbf, my problems with bazzite were probably down to me not understanding the immutable distro concept.

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                  I can absolutely expect Slackware to be solid; my concern is about user-friendliness 😄

                  Not the easiest distro out there.

                  I more or less understood immutable distros and kind of managed to work fine with them, but, honestly, I feel all they do is enforce a certain way to interact with the system that makes screwing it up very hard - but on the other hand, introduces a slew of non-standard and sometimes complicated solutions newbies won't understand (even for veterans it takes a while to get a grasp on them). If you follow the same pipeline on a mutable distro, you get the same stability plus the ability to do a lot of things without jumping through the hoops.

                  Right now I ended up on classical non-atomic Fedora for this reason. It features a lot of safe practices from immutable distros - system snapshots before updating, prioritizing flatpaks, container-oriented terminal able to work with Distrobox among all other things - but at the same time it's a mutable distro able to work with everything else.

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                    I can absolutely expect Slackware to be solid; my concern is about user-friendliness 😄

                    Not the easiest distro out there.

                    I more or less understood immutable distros and kind of managed to work fine with them, but, honestly, I feel all they do is enforce a certain way to interact with the system that makes screwing it up very hard - but on the other hand, introduces a slew of non-standard and sometimes complicated solutions newbies won't understand (even for veterans it takes a while to get a grasp on them). If you follow the same pipeline on a mutable distro, you get the same stability plus the ability to do a lot of things without jumping through the hoops.

                    Right now I ended up on classical non-atomic Fedora for this reason. It features a lot of safe practices from immutable distros - system snapshots before updating, prioritizing flatpaks, container-oriented terminal able to work with Distrobox among all other things - but at the same time it's a mutable distro able to work with everything else.

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                    I think Slackware's reputation for being difficult dates back to the 90s when all linux was difficult. Slackware has evolved just like everyone else, just differently. It's easy to install, and works like any other kde plasma based distro if you choose the default full install.

                    The two biggest differences are no systemd and package management. Slackpkg functions somewhat like apt-get, but only for official packages and updates. Everything else can be installed with slackbuild scripts that can be automated with sbopkg. This process is similar to using the AUR with a helper like yay. And I have some flatpaks installed too.

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                      I think Slackware's reputation for being difficult dates back to the 90s when all linux was difficult. Slackware has evolved just like everyone else, just differently. It's easy to install, and works like any other kde plasma based distro if you choose the default full install.

                      The two biggest differences are no systemd and package management. Slackpkg functions somewhat like apt-get, but only for official packages and updates. Everything else can be installed with slackbuild scripts that can be automated with sbopkg. This process is similar to using the AUR with a helper like yay. And I have some flatpaks installed too.

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                      Fair!

                      But still, an installation process that doesn't involve a package manager is a bit of a pain, comparatively. Flatpaks may certainly be very helpful, though.

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                        Fair!

                        But still, an installation process that doesn't involve a package manager is a bit of a pain, comparatively. Flatpaks may certainly be very helpful, though.

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                        There are tools to download, compile and install packages! Whether or how you use them is left up to the slacker. I use them, but I scrutinize most deps so that I'm not adding support for features I won't use.

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                        • downhomechunk@midwest.socialD [email protected]

                          There are tools to download, compile and install packages! Whether or how you use them is left up to the slacker. I use them, but I scrutinize most deps so that I'm not adding support for features I won't use.

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                          I see, yep.

                          Thanks for the response!

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