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The US is now the enemy of the west

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    We should stop calling it "the west" then.
    It's always been a ridiculous name for a group that includes Australia, Europe, and USA.
    We should think of a new name...

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    There's also Canada, NZ, South America, a lot of Africa and Asia

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      There's also Canada, NZ, South America, a lot of Africa and Asia

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      No country in South America, Africa or Asia is part of "the west".
      I admit I forgot Canada and New Zealand, as is tradition.

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      • S [email protected]

        We should stop calling it "the west" then.
        It's always been a ridiculous name for a group that includes Australia, Europe, and USA.
        We should think of a new name...

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        I guess "NATO and friends" might be a bit shortsighted?

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          No country in South America, Africa or Asia is part of "the west".
          I admit I forgot Canada and New Zealand, as is tradition.

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          Japan and South Korea aren't in Asia? I'd certainly count them as "western", especially Japan. if I'm feeling especially generous I might provisionally include Brazil too.

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            I've been calling it piss-jizz

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            pee pee poo poo hehehe (don't tell my mom I said that)

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              We should stop calling it "the west" then.
              It's always been a ridiculous name for a group that includes Australia, Europe, and USA.
              We should think of a new name...

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              the Imperial Core is already a more descriptive name, methinks

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              • carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                the Imperial Core is already a more descriptive name, methinks

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                The "other side" is imperial too. That doesn't make sense.

                The entire thing is just imperial powers battling and using everything in-between as pawns.

                Do you think Russia, China and Saudi Arabia aren't doing the same thing to places?

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                • cygnus@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                  Japan and South Korea aren't in Asia? I'd certainly count them as "western", especially Japan. if I'm feeling especially generous I might provisionally include Brazil too.

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                  I wouldn't. You're mistaking countries under the thumb of the West as being the West

                  WWII and Korea are how those countries came about their position today. I don't think they're entirely against their position but they don't have a seat at the table like the others do

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                    The free world maybe?

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                    How do you explain this to the slaves in USA?

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                      The Last States of Democracy

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                      Kingdom of the billionaires.

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                        How do you explain this to the slaves in USA?

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                        we know tbh

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                        • doom@ttrpg.networkD [email protected]

                          I wouldn't. You're mistaking countries under the thumb of the West as being the West

                          WWII and Korea are how those countries came about their position today. I don't think they're entirely against their position but they don't have a seat at the table like the others do

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                          Japan's the third largest country in the world and they aligned themselves with the West in the Meiji restoration. they sought imperial conquest of their neighbors in the 1900s. what more do you want for them to be the West

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                            We should stop calling it "the west" then.
                            It's always been a ridiculous name for a group that includes Australia, Europe, and USA.
                            We should think of a new name...

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                            the empire

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                            • doom@ttrpg.networkD [email protected]

                              The "other side" is imperial too. That doesn't make sense.

                              The entire thing is just imperial powers battling and using everything in-between as pawns.

                              Do you think Russia, China and Saudi Arabia aren't doing the same thing to places?

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                              they are imperialist too, but not nearly to the same degree

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                              • carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                                they are imperialist too, but not nearly to the same degree

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                                Just less successful

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                                  How do you explain this to the slaves in USA?

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                                  Just kick out the "freest" country

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                                  • doom@ttrpg.networkD [email protected]

                                    I wouldn't. You're mistaking countries under the thumb of the West as being the West

                                    WWII and Korea are how those countries came about their position today. I don't think they're entirely against their position but they don't have a seat at the table like the others do

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                                    They have has as much of a seat as warrants their size and economic power, perhaps even more because of their location as a buffer against China. Most EU countries have pull only because they are part of the EU. Compare Spain and Japan on the world stage, for example.

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                                      Do not stop there. Get enlisted into their army

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                                      I heard 5 piles of Gunpowder and 4 of sand creates explosives that you can attach to the drones you are sending them. In addition the acquisition of gun powder reduces the amount of creeps

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                                        I guess "NATO and friends" might be a bit shortsighted?

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                                        NATO and Friends sounds like some Paw Patrol type cartoon.

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                                          Yes ofc.. Everything Trump has been saying and doing is insane.

                                          But we should also be carefull about simply parroting US media. It seems the USA media en politicians want to escalate this. Actually, the US media while apperantly trashing Trump, may be playing exactly in his hands.

                                          Or am I stretching it? I mean have you noticed how the (established) EU media and politicians have been more much nuanced in their reports?

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