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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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  • K [email protected]

    I need names and addresses! For... Reasons unrelated to any lethal plans

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    Usually you need to provide sources for your claims, that’s a normal thing that people will ask for, you know.

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    • B [email protected]

      Then who would they lord over and whose hard work would they make their money off of, on the other hand using these threats to bring back slavery feels like the scarier future to me

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      We in the USA are telling farmers that they won't deport their labor if they are accountable to them. They can very easily have those who defect or resist in any way deported to concentration camps. They can also be imprisoned for trying to slip over the border the other way.

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      • W [email protected]

        Typically, no one wants to die for stupid shit, especially when they are in the wrong. But when there is no consequences such as dying, a.k.a no nukes, why not go to war and take everything? There's no morals between countries...unless enforced by nukes.

        This is why I'm pro nuclear armament of all countries.

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        This is the dumbest possible position because it maximizes the chance that they are used. There is no reason to think mad working was likely amongst a few actors and it almost failed repeatedly. There is even less reason to suppose it scales.

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        • P [email protected]

          yeah but if Israel gets them the countries they keep bombing should also get to have them. the country that jerks off to 2A somehow doesn't think so.

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          Iran is a terrorist state run by lunatics. Them and Israel having them is even worse than Israel having them.

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          • M [email protected]

            Trying to give Iran nukes is pretty close to accompliss to mass murder. Iran is a terrorist state.

            Anyone should reasonably be trying to negotiate to avoid loss of life but at the end of the day killing them may be the lesser of two evils from the perspective of the would be target.

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            Isreal is a terrorist state, the US is a terrorist state.
            Assasinating people or blowing them up on their way to work is terror. Blowing up pagers in homes while a child is bring it to daddy is terrorism.

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            • C [email protected]

              Has Israel officially declared war on Iran? Apart from that, why aren't they protected by the Geneva convention?

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              An official declaration of war is not required. These nuclear scientists are not protected by the Geneva convention because Iranian nuclear infrastructure, including persons, are military targets. The purpose is to destroy Iran's nuclear capacity and that's a purposeful military objective.

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              • W [email protected]

                No Iran definitely has the moral high ground, by a fair margin. Israel has been committing a genocide, as well as running a full on apartheid ethnostate, if you didn't know. But even if we ignore that, the IAEA as wel as the American intelligence community (think NSA, CIA and so on) have both assessed, as recently as a week ago, that Iran has not attempted to build nuclear weapons since 2003. Iran is being bombed, illegally, based on a lie. That's high ground enough for me.

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                They can stop enrichment of uranium any time it's not even the only choice for nuclear power and they long surpassed the target they need to generate power. They ARE trying for nukes just aren't close due to first negotiations then sabatogue and murders.

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                • C [email protected]

                  Yeah, that's cool.

                  Well I guess my opinion is that it's essentially never "legitimate" to be the aggressor. Determining which party is the aggressor can sometimes be complicated, but it often boils down to this: which party is crossing the border?

                  In this case, I'm sure many would say that Iran took the first aggressive action by pursuing a nuclear program, but I have a few issues with that. First, Israel already has nuclear weapons, so surely that is an earlier provocation. Secondly, Iran still isn't crossing the border, Israel was first to pull the trigger, and they pulled a lot of triggers (in Iranian territory). And finally, Israel and Iran have been in the process of forging nuclear treaties many times now, and nearly every time Israel has sabotaged the talks with provocative, often military actions, or they simply left the table - it seems clear to me that Israel does not want a nuclear deal, they will not accept any kind of compromise.

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                  If that's your metric, then I think Israel meets it. Iran has sponsored and directed non-state actors in Israel. These include both Hamas and Hezbollah. Additionally, Houthi militants have targeted Israeli civilian shipping.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    Trying to give Iran nukes is pretty close to accompliss to mass murder. Iran is a terrorist state.

                    Anyone should reasonably be trying to negotiate to avoid loss of life but at the end of the day killing them may be the lesser of two evils from the perspective of the would be target.

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                    Terrorism is internationally recognized as when a group or organization unaffiliated with a recognized government uses violence to achieve a political goal. "Terrorist state" is a contradiction in terms.

                    Netanyahu is leading a genocide and starting wars, all to avoid the regular democratic and legal process of Israel. Why are you carrying water for him?

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                    • M [email protected]

                      This is the dumbest possible position because it maximizes the chance that they are used. There is no reason to think mad working was likely amongst a few actors and it almost failed repeatedly. There is even less reason to suppose it scales.

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                      If they do need to be used anyway, then it was perhaps for the best.

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                      • H [email protected]

                        Hey don't worry about Mossad and the USA, just close your curtains tonight in the house you've lived in for 40 years. You'll be fine.

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                        I mean, if I was a key part of the nuclear program of the US, and there was another country specifically targeting the US's nuclear program, I would assume myself to be a target.

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                        • W [email protected]

                          What is to stop the ultra wealthy from simply each making a million of these AI commanded drones, and just...killing all the poor? ALL of them? ALL OF US?!

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                          Because drones are expensive, and it would be a waste of money to use them on poor people.

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                          • H [email protected]

                            How can people be so fucking stupid as to keep their key personnel vulnerable like that?

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                            Incompetence is the hallmark of the mullahs' regime

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                            • M [email protected]

                              They can stop enrichment of uranium any time it's not even the only choice for nuclear power and they long surpassed the target they need to generate power. They ARE trying for nukes just aren't close due to first negotiations then sabatogue and murders.

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                              They ARE trying for nukes

                              What do you know that the IAEA, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, and the rest of the entire American intelligence community don't? What an unbelievably arrogant way to fall for the exact same lie that they used for the illegal invasion of Iraq and all the war crimes that ensued.

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                              • cabillaud@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                Incompetence is the hallmark of the mullahs' regime

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                                Then how are they a threat?

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                                  Iran is a terrorist state run by lunatics. Them and Israel having them is even worse than Israel having them.

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                                  weird how Israel is the one that keeps invading other countries, not to mention terrorizing palestine for its entire existence.

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                                    How can people be so fucking stupid as to keep their key personnel vulnerable like that?

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                                    How can people be so fucking stupid as to believe a pissrahelli source.
                                    They lie when they open their mouth

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                                    • 5 [email protected]

                                      An official declaration of war is not required. These nuclear scientists are not protected by the Geneva convention because Iranian nuclear infrastructure, including persons, are military targets. The purpose is to destroy Iran's nuclear capacity and that's a purposeful military objective.

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                                      That sounds like total bullshit, according to that logic anything could be declared a military target and therefore nothing would fall under the Geneva convention. I think you're talking out of your ass.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        It's not about Nazi or any such thing, it's about abilities. They didn't draft the whole German army, just the ones they thought would make them stronger.

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                                        You didn't check any of the links I gave.
                                        No surprise then you know nothing and are one of those who typically only heard of 'Operation Paperclip' where they used some 'harmless scientist' like Werner Von Braun, etc...
                                        Who was not only a member of the nazi party but an SS member.

                                        So nazi whitewasher, look at the links and explain why they evacuated an entire SS-Galizien Division from ukraine?
                                        The ones who murdered 40000 jews in 2 days at Babi Yar and put 4000 antifascist civilians in a mine shaft and then blew up the entrance leaving them to die horribly?

                                        Or why save warcriminals and let them live their lives in S-America?

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                                          They ARE trying for nukes

                                          What do you know that the IAEA, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, and the rest of the entire American intelligence community don't? What an unbelievably arrogant way to fall for the exact same lie that they used for the illegal invasion of Iraq and all the war crimes that ensued.

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                                          https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/21/middleeast/iran-nuclear-sites-hit-us-explainer-intl-hnk

                                          They are enriching uranium to 60% Note CNN isnt the only source for this.

                                          https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/conversion-enrichment-and-fabrication/uranium-enrichment

                                          They need 3-5% for nuclear power

                                          What do you think they are doing. Experts say not that they aren't working towards the appropriate tech but that they aren't close.

                                          You listed all sorts of sources but cited specific statements do you could borrow the appearance of expertise while putting your statements in their mouths.

                                          For instance I looked into the iaea I could find no statement to the effect that they aren't working towards nuclear weapons. They would in fact be stupid not to.

                                          As far as I can tell you are confused. I look forward to your detailed sources and reputations

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