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    All of politics is a compromise. You can't actually accomplish anything if you have a dogmatic approach to it. That's why Sanders, who I very nearly wholeheartedly support, is so rarely able to actually get anything done. And bless him for it!, he's the moral compass we need! But to get things done, politicians need to make deals, sometimes with shitty people.

    I don't like everything that Buttigieg represents. But I like him a lot more than Newsom, who throws trans people under the buss without provocation. I certainly like him more than Joe Walsh, the 'former' (?) Tea Party conservative that now claims to be a Democrat.

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    There's a difference between reasonable compromise and compromising with fascists who want to kill people. You cant deal with or compromise with them, especially since they will never work to compromise with you when they're in power. And atleast so far it feels like the current democratic party tried to move right during the election to compromise with these people rather then standing firm on certain principles like protecting migrants. People like Bernie dont win because the corporate interests and the establishment of the party will throw everything against them to stop them from winning. There's a reason one of the most popular things in America is a progressive ballot measures, even in red states.

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      We can't criticize the Democrats now?

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      Up to you. Do you think it'll help us win?

      See, I write to them. I call them. I influence them. You, you're influencing voters. Is that a winning strategy?

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        Add that he enabled the Biden disaster to the list. He was supposedly his mock debate partner and didn't raise any red flags about Biden's mental health. Seriously, fuck that guy.

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        Bidens mental health was never the issue. Its why right wingers switched to a new attack as soon as Harris was put in and havent mentioned a single thing about trumps mental health which is arguable worse than biden ever was.

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          I mean, that's a really low bar. I like Pete, and I would certainly vote for him instead of just about anyone in any position of government. But I do think our standards have been lowered to the point where "not a nazi shitbag" is going to put him in the upper echelon.

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          Pete isnt a low standard. Hes would be a good candidate in pretty much any country.

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          • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

            Buttigieg is one of the best politicians America has right now.

            Him growing a beard is a completely different thing from known bitch Ted Cruz growing one.

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            Well that's upsetting.

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            • S [email protected]

              All of politics is a compromise. You can't actually accomplish anything if you have a dogmatic approach to it. That's why Sanders, who I very nearly wholeheartedly support, is so rarely able to actually get anything done. And bless him for it!, he's the moral compass we need! But to get things done, politicians need to make deals, sometimes with shitty people.

              I don't like everything that Buttigieg represents. But I like him a lot more than Newsom, who throws trans people under the buss without provocation. I certainly like him more than Joe Walsh, the 'former' (?) Tea Party conservative that now claims to be a Democrat.

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              Bullshit. Governing is compromise, but politics is bullshit. I mean that in the literal sense. To get what you want politically, you have to push the overton window so that you can govern towards the middle. But the middle between reasonable and fascism is not a great place for governing anyone.

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                Up to you. Do you think it'll help us win?

                See, I write to them. I call them. I influence them. You, you're influencing voters. Is that a winning strategy?

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                Who's "us"? We're against the uniparty. Not in favor of it.

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                  Pete is just turning into an old gay man. They all have beards.

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                  the reason they hate is he is gay, and a dem. and the right wingers cant grow a beard to save them.


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                  • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                    Buttigieg is one of the best politicians America has right now.

                    Him growing a beard is a completely different thing from known bitch Ted Cruz growing one.

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                    or the likes of shapiro growing one. ted cruz sheds his skin in cancun and greece.

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                      Bidens mental health was never the issue. Its why right wingers switched to a new attack as soon as Harris was put in and havent mentioned a single thing about trumps mental health which is arguable worse than biden ever was.

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                      harris was a curveball and they couldnt compensate quickly enough, but harris misstep was tamping down her rhetoric, and now trying elicit hispanic and aa voters.

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                      • buboscandiacus@mander.xyzB [email protected]

                        We really need a c/menandfemale here on lemmy

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                        Female as an adjective ✅

                        Female as a noun ❌

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                        • darkfuture@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                          Buttigieg is one of the best politicians America has right now.

                          Him growing a beard is a completely different thing from known bitch Ted Cruz growing one.

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                          If "best" means technically proficient, then sure. He does the politician thing better than any other establishment Democrats I can think of. If "best" means good for the country, then I have some notes. Obama was the same kind of character, and Trump was the result. I'm not sure I want to go down the highly charismatic Wall Street bitch route again.

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                            harris was a curveball and they couldnt compensate quickly enough, but harris misstep was tamping down her rhetoric, and now trying elicit hispanic and aa voters.

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                            Also, her interview answer about not doing anything different from the Biden administration was political malpractice of the first order.

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                              Up to you. Do you think it'll help us win?

                              See, I write to them. I call them. I influence them. You, you're influencing voters. Is that a winning strategy?

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                              Voters vote in primaries too you know. Biden beat Bernie almost entirely on a myth that he was the most electable. That shit has to go, and Rachel Maddow and Chris Cuomo aren't going to do that for us.

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                                Pete isnt a low standard. Hes would be a good candidate in pretty much any country.

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                                So was Obama, who led us directly to Trump. At some point, Democrats have to actually stand for something more than mere competence and being the lesser evil.

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                                  Who's "us"? We're against the uniparty. Not in favor of it.

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                                  Until we have ranked choice, "us" is the anti Republican contingent.

                                  You never vote FOR a candidate in a first past the post election. You vote AGAINST who you hate most. And not voting counts as a vote for who you hate most because it lowers their bar to win. It's unfortunately how the math works out.

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                                    Female as an adjective ✅

                                    Female as a noun ❌

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                                    Got me there

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                                      There's a difference between reasonable compromise and compromising with fascists who want to kill people. You cant deal with or compromise with them, especially since they will never work to compromise with you when they're in power. And atleast so far it feels like the current democratic party tried to move right during the election to compromise with these people rather then standing firm on certain principles like protecting migrants. People like Bernie dont win because the corporate interests and the establishment of the party will throw everything against them to stop them from winning. There's a reason one of the most popular things in America is a progressive ballot measures, even in red states.

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                                      You cant deal with or compromise with them

                                      You kind of have to, since government relies on the consent of the governed. When enough of them will no longer consent to being governed, your government will fail. But if you really want to address that problem, you look at the reasons why people turn to fascism; it's not something that happens in a vacuum.

                                      In this case, the dems are handling it badly; they're trying to move to the right in order to give the fascists the things that they say they want. But what they say they want isn't really the root issue, which means that dems can never go far enough right to win their vote.

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