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  • M [email protected]

    I'm sure that they would choose to interpret the swipe to clear it as a click

    but yeah my last phone I did that for several years. nope, no thank you.

    every time I start my TV I have to say I don't want the new firmware because it comes with a new privacy policy / user agreement

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    I will need to buy a new TV soon, and the single biggest factor won't be price, features, or quality, it will be the absolute minimum smart features available. I'm fine with a sleep timer, and built-in audio smoothing would be great, but I can add anything else I want with a dongle that costs less than $100 (or just attach a full-blown computer to it). I'm not made of money, but I'm fortunate enough that I can afford to buy a TV with something other than an opportunity to invade my private life for marketing.

    The other thing I'm looking for is a decent non-Google/Apple smartphone with an eye to privacy. A decent Linux phone would be great, Sailfish OS looks promising, maybe there are other options. Hopefully my Samsung lasts until then. When one of their updates came out whose main feature seemed to be the ability to spy on you everywhere, I closed my account and don't even have that logged in anymore. There are a number of interesting features I can't use, and a lot of terrible features I don't want, that aren't available to me anymore. A smartphone that belongs to me, and not some corporate conglomerate would be nice. We'll see.

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      I’d love to own my own devices but I’m so addicted to my phone I can’t handle pulling out my lighter, smaller, always charged debit card and so will continue to give up my ownership rights so I can continue to be mildly inconvenienced.

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      #145

      I'd love to stay private, but I'm so addicted to giving my financial information to banks that I can't handle pulling out a lighter, fee-free, no-Internet-access-required, and nearly universally-accepted banknote from my wallet and so will continue to give up data about my spending so I can continue to be mildly inconvenienced.

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      • N [email protected]

        https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

        i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

        https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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        #146
        • "Yes"
        • "No, but thank you soooo much for asking anyway! You'd be welcome to ask again and I am soooo thankful. It's a great thing that you filled the screen with this pop up for a thing I do not want. No, but thank you."

        Corporate machines stole my voice that's MY VOICE give it back I have THOUGHTS to say with MY VOICE give me my voice back you ass give it back let me say what I want I need to tell them to fuck off

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        • wizard_pope@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

          The worst thing is the past few years android updates brought fuckall exciting new stuff and just more spyware and worse performance .

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          Hey now that's not fair, they also made the ui huge so it looks like a fisher price toy! No you can't turn it off why would you want that??

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          • darkdarkhouse@lemmy.sdf.orgD [email protected]

            At this point I don't even know what I'm supposed to pay for. I had two Windows 10 Pro licenses, transferred those with Microsoft on the phone from OEM to virtual machines, then reinstalled them with Windows 11 and had to activate them with Massgrave scripts. Am I supposed to be paying for those? I don't want to hire a lawyer.

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            Fucked if I know. All I’m saying is that if Microsoft has a price tag on it then they shouldn’t put ads and the only reason I replied to that first comment was because it was saying that ads are ok if the product is free(and it isn’t). The only times Windows has been free for me is from college but that is paid for, one way or another.

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            • C [email protected]

              Simple things like turning off the computer isn’t intuitive.

              Lol like that's even possible in Windows. I can't remember the last version I had where the "Power Off" option actually worked. I still just hold down the physical power button until I hear that click.

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              It used to be that if you disabled hibernate or something, it would actually shut down completely then start back up fresh when powered on, instead of that hybrid startup thing.

              If there's some new, worse version then I have no idea, lol.

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                https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                locked bootloaders and complicated processes to getting phones changed are crimes against humanity layman can't really perceive.

                wish i had solutions.

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                  https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                  i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                  https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                  So what’s the non-corpo option for phone OSes?

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                    I have a desktop I built in 2019 with no TPM running. Windows 10.

                    Starting a couple of months ago, occasionally when it boots it will automatically open a full-screen ad for Windows 11.

                    It's extremely disruptive because of my setup. I use my monitors and keyboard for my work laptop and have a KVM to switch between the two, and since I use that space for work I don't like to spend much time there for recreation. So I often turn my desktop on and run it headless whenever I'm done with work, and don't see the ad, which then messes up my attempts at streaming. So I need to walk back upstairs to switch the KVM and close out of it manually.

                    No matter how many different "permanent" solutions I can find on the internet it keeps finding a way to do it again every couple of weeks. I've moved to Linux on most of the rest of my personal machines, but this desktop has all my old music production software that needs Windows. I'm getting pretty close to just investing in a different music production platform that works with Mint though.

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                    If it's supported by your hardware and software you're still using, I'd be tempted to blow away Windows 10 and put Windows 7 on there. I ran Windows 7 for several years after support ended - best Windows experience ever. Rock solid stable and no hassles of having to deal with updates. I eventually moved onto Linux after continuing to run Windows 7 for general desktop usage started to become unfeasible, but for something that just needs to run Windows to do some specific things, I'd definitely consider it.

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                      https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                      i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                      https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                      does this also affect OP12R? i have battery saver on, so its preventing the updating from constantly bugging me.

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                        https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                        i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                        https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                        funny how a(n implicitly) rooted linux computer is fine, but a rooted handheld linux computer is the devil and insecure.

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                          Because the majority of people (I realise that won't be the majority of people on Lemmy due to the general user base) aren't technologically literate enough to flash custom ROMs and the like on phones even if they want to get away from the bullshit you mention.

                          Graphene is the easiest for sure and when more phones are supported with that kind of easy install I believe it will embolden more people to make the switch away from crap they don't like.

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                          im one of those people , im using op12r though, i heard on reddit they change it, but im not saavy enough to do it.

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                            im one of those people , im using op12r though, i heard on reddit they change it, but im not saavy enough to do it.

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                            I think a big part of the problem with wider adoption, particularly of less tech savvy people, is the documentation is often terrible. This is true of the FOSS community in general in my experience. There are many great people working on great projects for the FOSS community but when it comes to writing a guide to help people implement things they far too often assume a level of knowledge of the reader that is unreasonable to assume for the wider world of people that could benefit from their work.

                            If more people could write simple, broken down guides on how to implement and use their software then it would decrease the barrier of entry. Far too many things I see have instructions that include terms or processes that are too complex to expect an "average" person to know or understand and that will put a lot of people off as your average user doesnt want to try hard just to figure out the language used for a world they may not have an interest in getting deep into but those same people could probably benefit from the end result.

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                              I think a big part of the problem with wider adoption, particularly of less tech savvy people, is the documentation is often terrible. This is true of the FOSS community in general in my experience. There are many great people working on great projects for the FOSS community but when it comes to writing a guide to help people implement things they far too often assume a level of knowledge of the reader that is unreasonable to assume for the wider world of people that could benefit from their work.

                              If more people could write simple, broken down guides on how to implement and use their software then it would decrease the barrier of entry. Far too many things I see have instructions that include terms or processes that are too complex to expect an "average" person to know or understand and that will put a lot of people off as your average user doesnt want to try hard just to figure out the language used for a world they may not have an interest in getting deep into but those same people could probably benefit from the end result.

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                              that is true, im not saavy enough to know what a different OS does, and how to integrate it into my current phone. my 2 bros could though, since they are in the tech industry and are able to use other OSes on thier PCs.

                              if it was simple as downloading a specific app and then instructions, i think people would go for it.

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                                i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                                https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                                I'm still rooted but I'm on android 7 and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one with access. Lol
                                If only I had more money that access would probably be worth more than just amusement.

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                                  So what’s the non-corpo option for phone OSes?

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                                  Grapphene, Lineage, and MicroOS are the ones I know.

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                                    Hey now that's not fair, they also made the ui huge so it looks like a fisher price toy! No you can't turn it off why would you want that??

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                                    Of course they did, the average American struggles to tie their shoes.

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                                      https://infosec.exchange/@ryanc/114901140203859448

                                      i recomend this ancient talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

                                      https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg

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                                      Win11 When i hit "restart" after work to boot into Linux: "You mean log off ... You wanted the log in screen right?"

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                                        Me? Who is talking about me?

                                        Granted I used and I am still using a phone that is rooted next to my GOS phone. Rooting makes it easier to backup app data, cleanup the device, customize battery charge settings, patch apps, edit app memory, and, debloat, I guess, but I never have done that. I just wasn't assuming that the person rooting their android did it just to debloat, they might have more/other use-cases. But it is their device, they should have the freedom to do with it, whatever they want in all cases. How much security and against which kind of attacks and which attacker one might want to defend more or less and to what cost of personal freedom is a personal question, that cannot (and should not) be answered by some outside entity for an individum, if breaches only affect them.

                                        Was it IRobot where the intelligence decided that in order to keep every human save, they are all placed under house arrest? Security has its cost, that shouldn't be ignored.

                                        If someone wants root access, the reason doesn't matter, it is their device, they should get it. Asking that is like asking why someone want to leave their house, and were they want to go before letting them or trying to convince them that they don't actually need to leave because it isn't save for them and that they should be happy with what they have.

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                                        Rooting modern android essentially breaks the security model on a system wide level. Im not disagreeing with your sentiment, if someone wants to do that, they should be able to, but its not something needed on modern android for backups or anything else.

                                        5+ years ago it was a different situation, apps like titanium backup back in the day would require root but in 2025 this is no longer the case with modern android versions.

                                        The important feature is bootloader unlocking, if you have access to that then you have root access. Just as you wouldnt stay logged in as root on a PC its also not what you should be doing on a phone.

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                                          I will need to buy a new TV soon, and the single biggest factor won't be price, features, or quality, it will be the absolute minimum smart features available. I'm fine with a sleep timer, and built-in audio smoothing would be great, but I can add anything else I want with a dongle that costs less than $100 (or just attach a full-blown computer to it). I'm not made of money, but I'm fortunate enough that I can afford to buy a TV with something other than an opportunity to invade my private life for marketing.

                                          The other thing I'm looking for is a decent non-Google/Apple smartphone with an eye to privacy. A decent Linux phone would be great, Sailfish OS looks promising, maybe there are other options. Hopefully my Samsung lasts until then. When one of their updates came out whose main feature seemed to be the ability to spy on you everywhere, I closed my account and don't even have that logged in anymore. There are a number of interesting features I can't use, and a lot of terrible features I don't want, that aren't available to me anymore. A smartphone that belongs to me, and not some corporate conglomerate would be nice. We'll see.

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                                          Sailfish isn't bad but its a compromise. I don't like that it's not open source. I'm happy to pay for it, but I'd prefer if it were a community project rather than something buiut behind the closed doors of an understaffed company.

                                          That said I'm using it to type this comment so I must still think its better than the alternatives.

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