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    https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/114994624601006489

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    Does this work as a ping?

    @[email protected]

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      https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/114994624601006489

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      These morons are still around? Didn't we thoroughly deal with them the last time their press release made the rounds which was, what, about a year ago?

      Don't get too worked up about it. What they're proposing is physically impossible for a myriad of reasons, which anybody who didn't flunk their 10th grade science class would be able to tell you. Once they run out of investors to grift we'll never hear from them again.

      There's no loss here other than the waste of money, effort, and rocket fuel.

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        Nah, don't get too worked out over it.

        It can't be economically viable either, so as soon as that company stops gifting investors out of their money, it will just disappear and the mirror will fall back into Earth.

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        I am worried about them screwing it up and having the thing explode in orbit

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

        Ideally the investors figure out what's wrong before the company starts launching mirrors into orbit

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          Which bond film was this again?

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          https://song.link/s/528QhCT2v3HgD71RmrSUNW

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          • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

            These morons are still around? Didn't we thoroughly deal with them the last time their press release made the rounds which was, what, about a year ago?

            Don't get too worked up about it. What they're proposing is physically impossible for a myriad of reasons, which anybody who didn't flunk their 10th grade science class would be able to tell you. Once they run out of investors to grift we'll never hear from them again.

            There's no loss here other than the waste of money, effort, and rocket fuel.

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            To get daylight illumination on even a small area from a 600km orbit you'd need about 20 km² of reflectors. Which is obviously absurd.

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              Tech bros will always choose the most overcomplicated option over the simplest, most effective ones.

              Why build a battery and just install some more solar panels to charge it during the day when you could have a mirror in orbit beam down a tiny fraction of the light required to generate power anywhere near regular daytime capacity, for only a small portion of the night before the satellite is out of range, in only a small area, in a manner that can only work for one single client per satellite at a time, meaning it gets less cost effective at scale?

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                Tech bros will always choose the most overcomplicated option over the simplest, most effective ones.

                Why build a battery and just install some more solar panels to charge it during the day when you could have a mirror in orbit beam down a tiny fraction of the light required to generate power anywhere near regular daytime capacity, for only a small portion of the night before the satellite is out of range, in only a small area, in a manner that can only work for one single client per satellite at a time, meaning it gets less cost effective at scale?

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                and all of this is localized entirely within your kitchen?

                May I see it?

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                • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                  I am worried about them screwing it up and having the thing explode in orbit

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

                  Ideally the investors figure out what's wrong before the company starts launching mirrors into orbit

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                  If you break a mirror satellite it’s like 10 years of bad luck for the whole planet.

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                    Imagine lying in bed trying to sleep and suddenly it's daylight because your neighbour ordered sunlight on Uber.

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                    • dual_sport_dork@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                      These morons are still around? Didn't we thoroughly deal with them the last time their press release made the rounds which was, what, about a year ago?

                      Don't get too worked up about it. What they're proposing is physically impossible for a myriad of reasons, which anybody who didn't flunk their 10th grade science class would be able to tell you. Once they run out of investors to grift we'll never hear from them again.

                      There's no loss here other than the waste of money, effort, and rocket fuel.

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                      They're going to shine it on the Solar Freakin' Roadways so they can keep producing power at night.

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                      • deceptichum@quokk.auD [email protected]

                        If you break a mirror satellite it’s like 10 years of bad luck for the whole planet.

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                        7 light years of bad luck

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                          Which bond film was this again?

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                          https://jamesbond.fandom.com/wiki/Icarus

                          Satellite to direct sunlight for agriculture

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                            https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/114994624601006489

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                            Well I heard that you can just order to take down a satellite, so you could do that.

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                              7 light years of bad luck

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                              That's 6.623 × 10^13 kilometers of bad luck!

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                                https://mastodon.social/@sundogplanets/114994624601006489

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                                This is literally the opposite of one of the plans to lower global temperatures.

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                                • lazynooblet@lazysoci.alL [email protected]

                                  Imagine lying in bed trying to sleep and suddenly it's daylight because your neighbour ordered sunlight on Uber.

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                                    Nah, don't get too worked out over it.

                                    It can't be economically viable either, so as soon as that company stops gifting investors out of their money, it will just disappear and the mirror will fall back into Earth.

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                                    Given the ridiculous financial gymnastics propping up the AI industry, I'm not sure that "not economically viable" is always a failure state for a business any longer.

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                                      Haha, perfect fit 😁

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                                      • L [email protected]

                                        To get daylight illumination on even a small area from a 600km orbit you'd need about 20 km² of reflectors. Which is obviously absurd.

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                                        What is the physics or math behind that? Light from the sun is essentially aligned by the time it reaches earth. If the mirror is perfectly reflective, a 10 m^2 mirror should light up a patch of Earth roughly 10 m^2 times the cosine of the angle of the mirror. So unless the angle is close to 90°, most of the losses would be from poor reflectivity.

                                        I totally agree it's a stupid idea. But maybe it's even worse than I am thinking of?

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                                          What is the physics or math behind that? Light from the sun is essentially aligned by the time it reaches earth. If the mirror is perfectly reflective, a 10 m^2 mirror should light up a patch of Earth roughly 10 m^2 times the cosine of the angle of the mirror. So unless the angle is close to 90°, most of the losses would be from poor reflectivity.

                                          I totally agree it's a stupid idea. But maybe it's even worse than I am thinking of?

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                                          The Sun has an angular diameter of about half a degree viewed from Earth. To light up a location as brightly as the Sun would, you need to cover a half-degree circle in the sky (viewed from that location) with mirrors that reflect the Sun directly at the location. You can't get away with less because a mirror can't appear brighter than what it's reflecting; this is a fundamental property of optical systems.

                                          A mirror 600km away and 5km in diameter has an angular diameter of arctan(5/600) = 0.48°, close enough to half a degree. It has an area of π(5km/2)² = 19.6km² which is pretty much 20km².

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