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Teslas turn toxic as sales crash in Europe and the UK | EV sales in the region are growing, but not for Tesla

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  • sturgist@lemmy.caS [email protected]

    I'm a sole trader, Stone Mason, I make enough to buy a used vehicle, but not new. Know what I would love? A light duty truck, no crew cab road princess bullshit, two seats in front, maybe a single half door passenger side for putting stuff behind the seats, and a properly sized bed. There's no such thing on the used market. There's absolutely uses for small trucks for trades folk. Back in Canada I had an older Ford Ranger, from when they were a rebadged Mitsubishi B3200. I would step over my dying gran for something like that here in the UK. The new Rangers are a fucking joke, FWD, crew cab standard, and they're the size of the old F-150s, completely unusable in the UK. I'm thinking about maybe importing a Japanese Kei Truck. There's some larger ones that are smaller than an old Ranger, but big enough for what I need....and they look cool AF.

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    I used to have a proton jumbuck, really useful little pickup. But they're hard to find in the UK and getting parts can be tricky.

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    • regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

      You know it was the French revolution that popularised the guillotine as a means of dealing with wealthy elites?

      But yeah I don't see how Tesla is going to ever repair the damage to their image, unless they can kick musk out and that doesn't seem likely.

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      Make a product line of electric guillotines? And dogfood with Musk.

      Anyway, the French revolution is not considered a one-sided success.

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        the white flag stereotype for France comes from 2003

        It actually comes (unfairly) from the French army mutinies of 1917 and (also unfairly) from France's surrender to Hitler in 1940, in addition to their not joining in the fun in Iraq. All of which obscures a prior thousand-year history of kicking the shit out of people.

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        I was just joking, but you forgot to say that this

        kicking the shit out of people

        can be made more specific, they were regularly kicking the shit out of Germans. Germans were the suffering side saying "thanks for punishing me, master" for many years. Not even counting, obviously, Normans kicking the shit out of English.

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        • regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

          I used to have a proton jumbuck, really useful little pickup. But they're hard to find in the UK and getting parts can be tricky.

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          Yeah, easy access to parts is pretty important.

          ....I had to look it up, it looks like one of the guys who worked on the design of the El Camino smooth talked someone in C-Suite that it was their own idea that releasing one that was modernised would sell super well. That might sound like I'm taking potshots, but I love the El Camino and I would buy a Jumbuck in a heartbeat.

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            Yeah, easy access to parts is pretty important.

            ....I had to look it up, it looks like one of the guys who worked on the design of the El Camino smooth talked someone in C-Suite that it was their own idea that releasing one that was modernised would sell super well. That might sound like I'm taking potshots, but I love the El Camino and I would buy a Jumbuck in a heartbeat.

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            Yeah, el Caminos look proper cool. TBH I thought my jumbuck looked pretty cool too. And it was really useful, at the time I was hauling a lot of wood and it drove just fine with a heavy load. I think it was maybe a 1.2 petrol engine iirc. They are pretty cheap if you can find them, I sold mine with 6 months MOT for about £500 . But yeah, parts are tricky, which isn't great with a work vehicle

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            • F [email protected]

              Early car sales data for January is starting to arrive from countries across the pond, and they paint an alarming picture for Tesla. Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK—all affluent countries that are key markets for Tesla's electric vehicles. Coming on the heels of a large financial miss, it's just one more problem for the automaker.

              Tesla sales dropped around 13 percent across Europe in 2024, but so far this year, the scale of the problem is far greater. In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent, while total car sales in the country fell by just 6 percent, with EV sales dropping just half a percent.

              Germany was already looking like lost ground for Tesla—its 41 percent drop in 2024 accounted for most of Tesla's lost sales across Europe. That must make the 59 percent drop in German Tesla sales recorded during January even more painful on the profit and loss statements.

              Across the Channel, the British auto industry just released its sales data for January. Here, Tesla sales fell less precipitously—just 12 percent. However, battery EV sales were 35 percent higher in the UK in January 2025 than in January 2024. The cake is growing, but Tesla is getting to eat less and less of it.

              In fact, no Tesla cracked the UK's top 10 best-seller list last month, something that has regularly happened in the past, although that may be due to having just two models for >sale in most markets.

              Large declines have also been recorded in Sweden (44 percent), Norway (38 percent), and the Netherlands (42 percent).

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              Tesla doesn't deserve to tarnish the great inventor's name. Elon more specifically. But who knows, possibly the company's management team are all mini Elons. The workers they are not at fault.

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              • regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                Yeah, I mean who is their market now? Anyone who isn't a nazi or ignorant isn't going to want to be seen driving one. And I get the impression that right wing folks are more into fossil fuels.

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                I get the impression that right wing folks are more into fossil fuels.

                Yup. I’d say they’re intentionally stupid.

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                  Looks at my VW

                  *Erika intensifies*

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                  At least the current vw CEO isn't openly a Nazi and they make good cars; unlike muskrat and his swasticars.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    Hoarding that much excess wealth induces mental disorders.

                    I was wondering if epigenetics may speak to that, in some cases

                    The only solution is to redistribute their wealth.

                    For the rest of us. I'm curious if it addresses the sociopathic tendencies of the original wealth hoarder?

                    ETA: that was a quick search for that study and I certainly don't understand it well.

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                    I don't think taking away their money would instantly fix their sociopathic tendencies, but it would allow them to actually engage with real human society again and the community and experiences from that would help to build empathy again.

                    But the reason for stripping them of their wealth is that their dangerous, we don't give nukes to violent schizophrenics.

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                      At least the current vw CEO isn't openly a Nazi and they make good cars; unlike muskrat and his swasticars.

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                      #157

                      I wouldn't fuck with VW after their "eco-diesel" bullshit from a decade or two ago.

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                      • E [email protected]

                        Ballsack massage device you say...

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                        I had the option, it drives you nuts

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                        • bzah@discuss.tchncs.deB [email protected]

                          Thanks, I was not aware of that.

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                          Yeah I'm glad the other guy replied with more details because my fuzzy memory was telling me that the French surrendering stereotype was around back in the 90s at least, but I was pretty young then and it was hard to remember.

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                            Early car sales data for January is starting to arrive from countries across the pond, and they paint an alarming picture for Tesla. Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK—all affluent countries that are key markets for Tesla's electric vehicles. Coming on the heels of a large financial miss, it's just one more problem for the automaker.

                            Tesla sales dropped around 13 percent across Europe in 2024, but so far this year, the scale of the problem is far greater. In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent, while total car sales in the country fell by just 6 percent, with EV sales dropping just half a percent.

                            Germany was already looking like lost ground for Tesla—its 41 percent drop in 2024 accounted for most of Tesla's lost sales across Europe. That must make the 59 percent drop in German Tesla sales recorded during January even more painful on the profit and loss statements.

                            Across the Channel, the British auto industry just released its sales data for January. Here, Tesla sales fell less precipitously—just 12 percent. However, battery EV sales were 35 percent higher in the UK in January 2025 than in January 2024. The cake is growing, but Tesla is getting to eat less and less of it.

                            In fact, no Tesla cracked the UK's top 10 best-seller list last month, something that has regularly happened in the past, although that may be due to having just two models for >sale in most markets.

                            Large declines have also been recorded in Sweden (44 percent), Norway (38 percent), and the Netherlands (42 percent).

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                            Sure am glad all the car companies decided to use the Tesla charger as the standard. /s

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                              Sure am glad all the car companies decided to use the Tesla charger as the standard. /s

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                              It's an open standard now, it doesn't really matter that Tesla was the first. So it's a good thing, kind of like iPhones using "Android charging cables" now.

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                                Early car sales data for January is starting to arrive from countries across the pond, and they paint an alarming picture for Tesla. Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK—all affluent countries that are key markets for Tesla's electric vehicles. Coming on the heels of a large financial miss, it's just one more problem for the automaker.

                                Tesla sales dropped around 13 percent across Europe in 2024, but so far this year, the scale of the problem is far greater. In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent, while total car sales in the country fell by just 6 percent, with EV sales dropping just half a percent.

                                Germany was already looking like lost ground for Tesla—its 41 percent drop in 2024 accounted for most of Tesla's lost sales across Europe. That must make the 59 percent drop in German Tesla sales recorded during January even more painful on the profit and loss statements.

                                Across the Channel, the British auto industry just released its sales data for January. Here, Tesla sales fell less precipitously—just 12 percent. However, battery EV sales were 35 percent higher in the UK in January 2025 than in January 2024. The cake is growing, but Tesla is getting to eat less and less of it.

                                In fact, no Tesla cracked the UK's top 10 best-seller list last month, something that has regularly happened in the past, although that may be due to having just two models for >sale in most markets.

                                Large declines have also been recorded in Sweden (44 percent), Norway (38 percent), and the Netherlands (42 percent).

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                                Elon gonna start using the EU for not buying his cars

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                                • regrettable_incident@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                  Yeah, el Caminos look proper cool. TBH I thought my jumbuck looked pretty cool too. And it was really useful, at the time I was hauling a lot of wood and it drove just fine with a heavy load. I think it was maybe a 1.2 petrol engine iirc. They are pretty cheap if you can find them, I sold mine with 6 months MOT for about £500 . But yeah, parts are tricky, which isn't great with a work vehicle

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                                  I had a Mazda Pricidia (MX-3) for a few years before I bought the Ranger. Thing was great. I had the rear seat pulled out and got a joiner pal build a custom wooden bed to put in. Did double duty, was enough to hold a week's worth of veneer stone and thinset plus my tools. Built-in storage boxes under the top. And with the front seats folded all the way forward there was an extra piece I could drop in, and all of a sudden you've got enough space for a double size inflatable camping mattress. I miss that thing.

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                                    Early car sales data for January is starting to arrive from countries across the pond, and they paint an alarming picture for Tesla. Sales are crashing in France, Germany, and the UK—all affluent countries that are key markets for Tesla's electric vehicles. Coming on the heels of a large financial miss, it's just one more problem for the automaker.

                                    Tesla sales dropped around 13 percent across Europe in 2024, but so far this year, the scale of the problem is far greater. In France, sales of new Teslas fell by 63 percent, while total car sales in the country fell by just 6 percent, with EV sales dropping just half a percent.

                                    Germany was already looking like lost ground for Tesla—its 41 percent drop in 2024 accounted for most of Tesla's lost sales across Europe. That must make the 59 percent drop in German Tesla sales recorded during January even more painful on the profit and loss statements.

                                    Across the Channel, the British auto industry just released its sales data for January. Here, Tesla sales fell less precipitously—just 12 percent. However, battery EV sales were 35 percent higher in the UK in January 2025 than in January 2024. The cake is growing, but Tesla is getting to eat less and less of it.

                                    In fact, no Tesla cracked the UK's top 10 best-seller list last month, something that has regularly happened in the past, although that may be due to having just two models for >sale in most markets.

                                    Large declines have also been recorded in Sweden (44 percent), Norway (38 percent), and the Netherlands (42 percent).

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                                    Why would they, Telas are lemons.

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                                      Tesla doesn't deserve to tarnish the great inventor's name. Elon more specifically. But who knows, possibly the company's management team are all mini Elons. The workers they are not at fault.

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                                      At this point, they became homonyms. Nothing more.

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                                        Welcome to the internet.

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                                        Tru dat.

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                                        • sturgist@lemmy.caS [email protected]

                                          I had a Mazda Pricidia (MX-3) for a few years before I bought the Ranger. Thing was great. I had the rear seat pulled out and got a joiner pal build a custom wooden bed to put in. Did double duty, was enough to hold a week's worth of veneer stone and thinset plus my tools. Built-in storage boxes under the top. And with the front seats folded all the way forward there was an extra piece I could drop in, and all of a sudden you've got enough space for a double size inflatable camping mattress. I miss that thing.

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                                          Yeah that sounds like a pretty decent solution. I know someone who did something similar to a Volvo estate. Bit crazy though that we've got to modify old vehicles to get a suitable work motor - seems like a gap in the market. VW made some sensible size pickups back in the 80s - but like the jumbuck they are old now. I hate to say it, but you might do better with a transit or sprinter. It's enclosed space but you've got room for tools n stuff.

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