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    Trump presented his ethnic cleansing plan as if he had the best interests of the Palestinians at heart. As if he was saving them from a disaster-prone earthquake zone, not from a genocidal neighbour he counts as Washington’s closest ally. His comments were greeted with shock and horror in western and Arab capitals. Everyone is distancing themselves from his blatant backing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza’s population.

    But these are the same leaders who kept silent through 15 months of Israel’s levelling of Gaza’s homes, hospitals, schools, universities, libraries, government buildings, mosques, churches and bakeries. Then, they spoke of Israel’s right to "defend itself" even as Israel caused so much damage the United Nations warned it would take up to 80 years to rebuild the territory - that is, four generations.

    What did they think would happen at the end of the wrecking spree they armed and fully supported? Did they imagine the people of Gaza could survive for years without homes, or hospitals, or schools, or water systems, or electricity? They knew this was the outcome: destitute Palestinians would either risk death in the ruins or be forced to move out.

    And western politicians not only let it happen, they told us it was "proportionate", it was necessary. They smeared anyone who dissented, anyone who called for a ceasefire, anyone who went on a protest march as an antisemite and a Jew hater.

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      Trump presented his ethnic cleansing plan as if he had the best interests of the Palestinians at heart. As if he was saving them from a disaster-prone earthquake zone, not from a genocidal neighbour he counts as Washington’s closest ally. His comments were greeted with shock and horror in western and Arab capitals. Everyone is distancing themselves from his blatant backing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza’s population.

      But these are the same leaders who kept silent through 15 months of Israel’s levelling of Gaza’s homes, hospitals, schools, universities, libraries, government buildings, mosques, churches and bakeries. Then, they spoke of Israel’s right to "defend itself" even as Israel caused so much damage the United Nations warned it would take up to 80 years to rebuild the territory - that is, four generations.

      What did they think would happen at the end of the wrecking spree they armed and fully supported? Did they imagine the people of Gaza could survive for years without homes, or hospitals, or schools, or water systems, or electricity? They knew this was the outcome: destitute Palestinians would either risk death in the ruins or be forced to move out.

      And western politicians not only let it happen, they told us it was "proportionate", it was necessary. They smeared anyone who dissented, anyone who called for a ceasefire, anyone who went on a protest march as an antisemite and a Jew hater.

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      If the US "owns" Gaza, as Trump insists, it will also own Gaza’s territorial waters, where there just happen to be fabulous quantities of untapped gas to enrich the enclave’s new "owner". Palestinians have, of course, never been allowed to develop their gas fields.

      Trump may even have let slip inadvertently the true death toll inflicted by Israel’s rampage. He referred to "all of them – there’s 1.7 million or maybe 1.8 million people" being forced out of Gaza.

      The population count before 7 October 2023 was between 2.2 and 2.3 million. Where are the other half a million Palestinians? Under the rubble? In unmarked graves? Eaten by feral dogs? Vaporised by 2,000lb US bombs?

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        Trump presented his ethnic cleansing plan as if he had the best interests of the Palestinians at heart. As if he was saving them from a disaster-prone earthquake zone, not from a genocidal neighbour he counts as Washington’s closest ally. His comments were greeted with shock and horror in western and Arab capitals. Everyone is distancing themselves from his blatant backing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza’s population.

        But these are the same leaders who kept silent through 15 months of Israel’s levelling of Gaza’s homes, hospitals, schools, universities, libraries, government buildings, mosques, churches and bakeries. Then, they spoke of Israel’s right to "defend itself" even as Israel caused so much damage the United Nations warned it would take up to 80 years to rebuild the territory - that is, four generations.

        What did they think would happen at the end of the wrecking spree they armed and fully supported? Did they imagine the people of Gaza could survive for years without homes, or hospitals, or schools, or water systems, or electricity? They knew this was the outcome: destitute Palestinians would either risk death in the ruins or be forced to move out.

        And western politicians not only let it happen, they told us it was "proportionate", it was necessary. They smeared anyone who dissented, anyone who called for a ceasefire, anyone who went on a protest march as an antisemite and a Jew hater.

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        But I’m UnDeCiDeD durrr

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          Trump presented his ethnic cleansing plan as if he had the best interests of the Palestinians at heart. As if he was saving them from a disaster-prone earthquake zone, not from a genocidal neighbour he counts as Washington’s closest ally. His comments were greeted with shock and horror in western and Arab capitals. Everyone is distancing themselves from his blatant backing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza’s population.

          But these are the same leaders who kept silent through 15 months of Israel’s levelling of Gaza’s homes, hospitals, schools, universities, libraries, government buildings, mosques, churches and bakeries. Then, they spoke of Israel’s right to "defend itself" even as Israel caused so much damage the United Nations warned it would take up to 80 years to rebuild the territory - that is, four generations.

          What did they think would happen at the end of the wrecking spree they armed and fully supported? Did they imagine the people of Gaza could survive for years without homes, or hospitals, or schools, or water systems, or electricity? They knew this was the outcome: destitute Palestinians would either risk death in the ruins or be forced to move out.

          And western politicians not only let it happen, they told us it was "proportionate", it was necessary. They smeared anyone who dissented, anyone who called for a ceasefire, anyone who went on a protest march as an antisemite and a Jew hater.

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          Biden bankrolled the last 15 months of this Holocaust. Harris would have continued it. Every President is AIPACs bitch. Every President kneels before Netanyahu.

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            Biden bankrolled the last 15 months of this Holocaust. Harris would have continued it. Every President is AIPACs bitch. Every President kneels before Netanyahu.

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            AIPAC didn't donate to the presidental election. Adelson did give Trump $100m for the west bank though.

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              Trump presented his ethnic cleansing plan as if he had the best interests of the Palestinians at heart. As if he was saving them from a disaster-prone earthquake zone, not from a genocidal neighbour he counts as Washington’s closest ally. His comments were greeted with shock and horror in western and Arab capitals. Everyone is distancing themselves from his blatant backing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza’s population.

              But these are the same leaders who kept silent through 15 months of Israel’s levelling of Gaza’s homes, hospitals, schools, universities, libraries, government buildings, mosques, churches and bakeries. Then, they spoke of Israel’s right to "defend itself" even as Israel caused so much damage the United Nations warned it would take up to 80 years to rebuild the territory - that is, four generations.

              What did they think would happen at the end of the wrecking spree they armed and fully supported? Did they imagine the people of Gaza could survive for years without homes, or hospitals, or schools, or water systems, or electricity? They knew this was the outcome: destitute Palestinians would either risk death in the ruins or be forced to move out.

              And western politicians not only let it happen, they told us it was "proportionate", it was necessary. They smeared anyone who dissented, anyone who called for a ceasefire, anyone who went on a protest march as an antisemite and a Jew hater.

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              I was confused by Trump's plan, because you'd think Israel would oppose it. But what if Trump is trying to extract Gaza as quid pro quo for American aid?

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                Biden bankrolled the last 15 months of this Holocaust. Harris would have continued it. Every President is AIPACs bitch. Every President kneels before Netanyahu.

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                On the plus side by helping get Trump elected you've made transgender people afraid to go outside and set back the civil rights movement to the early 70s. So you didn't actually stop the genocide, you just helped accelerate it, and screwed over a bunch of minorities! What a big win for you!

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                  Trump presented his ethnic cleansing plan as if he had the best interests of the Palestinians at heart. As if he was saving them from a disaster-prone earthquake zone, not from a genocidal neighbour he counts as Washington’s closest ally. His comments were greeted with shock and horror in western and Arab capitals. Everyone is distancing themselves from his blatant backing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza’s population.

                  But these are the same leaders who kept silent through 15 months of Israel’s levelling of Gaza’s homes, hospitals, schools, universities, libraries, government buildings, mosques, churches and bakeries. Then, they spoke of Israel’s right to "defend itself" even as Israel caused so much damage the United Nations warned it would take up to 80 years to rebuild the territory - that is, four generations.

                  What did they think would happen at the end of the wrecking spree they armed and fully supported? Did they imagine the people of Gaza could survive for years without homes, or hospitals, or schools, or water systems, or electricity? They knew this was the outcome: destitute Palestinians would either risk death in the ruins or be forced to move out.

                  And western politicians not only let it happen, they told us it was "proportionate", it was necessary. They smeared anyone who dissented, anyone who called for a ceasefire, anyone who went on a protest march as an antisemite and a Jew hater.

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                  Biden also lied about it, so let’s remember they are all guilty - most of fucking Washington is complicit in this

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                    But I’m UnDeCiDeD durrr

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                    Biden also lied about it

                    Hurrrrr durrrrr

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                      Biden also lied about it

                      Hurrrrr durrrrr

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                      The Department of Education is being dismantled.

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                        Trump presented his ethnic cleansing plan as if he had the best interests of the Palestinians at heart. As if he was saving them from a disaster-prone earthquake zone, not from a genocidal neighbour he counts as Washington’s closest ally. His comments were greeted with shock and horror in western and Arab capitals. Everyone is distancing themselves from his blatant backing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza’s population.

                        But these are the same leaders who kept silent through 15 months of Israel’s levelling of Gaza’s homes, hospitals, schools, universities, libraries, government buildings, mosques, churches and bakeries. Then, they spoke of Israel’s right to "defend itself" even as Israel caused so much damage the United Nations warned it would take up to 80 years to rebuild the territory - that is, four generations.

                        What did they think would happen at the end of the wrecking spree they armed and fully supported? Did they imagine the people of Gaza could survive for years without homes, or hospitals, or schools, or water systems, or electricity? They knew this was the outcome: destitute Palestinians would either risk death in the ruins or be forced to move out.

                        And western politicians not only let it happen, they told us it was "proportionate", it was necessary. They smeared anyone who dissented, anyone who called for a ceasefire, anyone who went on a protest march as an antisemite and a Jew hater.

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                        People do not understand the significance of BRICS at all and BRICS currency. There is a concerted, sophisticated effort to get as many precious metals, gold, and oil claimed by BRICS countries as fast as possible before the BRICS currency comes out (backed by those same materials).

                        Look at a list of the countries with the most gold (that they admit to having). The ones that aren't BRICS include Canada and US for example. Look in Africa - the countries with precious minerals are the ones being fought over. Even Ukraine is being fought over partially due to minerals.

                        Putin owns Trump.
                        https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373

                        And Trump even helped out China when he withdrew from the UN Special Counsel - now China is the president. Trump is also helping out China's claims to the South China Sea by renaming the Gulf of Mexico and trying to lay claims to it.

                        Hamas imo kidnapped those people due to KGB or other encouragement, then Israel/Netanyahu refused to rescue them and used them as proxy hostages gainst Biden to secute money because they had a deal with Trump and Putin. See Reagan and the Iran hostages that won him the elections - same thing. Otherwise the ceasefire in May 24 would have been agreed to (because Netanyahu thought Trump was going to lose and got cold feet, and maybe in a better timeline he did). I doubt Israel realizes that Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and all the other Islamic BRICS countries are going to backstab them for that space which is pretty sacred to them.

                        Russia needs the US to become Nazis because that's what they justified the Ukraine War on and that's what they will use to invade us and Canada and Greenland for our resources. They need us to have a civil war and to be dying and poor etc before they invade.

                        Trump will also be starting massive drug trafficking and human trafficking organizations. He also expanded the death penalty.

                        https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/incoming-trump-administration-plans-deport-migrants-countries-rcna182896

                        https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-floats-foreign-imprisonment-us-criminals-repeat-offenders-rcna189522

                        https://www.semafor.com/article/02/06/2025/trump-administration-container-company-to-provide-temporary-migrant-housing

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                          Biden also lied about it, so let’s remember they are all guilty - most of fucking Washington is complicit in this

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                          So you put makeup on your face before you feed it to the leopards? Kinda like icing?

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                            The Department of Education is being dismantled.

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                            'Biden.. wait.. '

                            Seriously. Just shovel the faces to the leopards at this point.

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                              On the plus side by helping get Trump elected you've made transgender people afraid to go outside and set back the civil rights movement to the early 70s. So you didn't actually stop the genocide, you just helped accelerate it, and screwed over a bunch of minorities! What a big win for you!

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                              Don't forget their kids will have a substandard education now that trump is taking that down as well.

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                                Trump presented his ethnic cleansing plan as if he had the best interests of the Palestinians at heart. As if he was saving them from a disaster-prone earthquake zone, not from a genocidal neighbour he counts as Washington’s closest ally. His comments were greeted with shock and horror in western and Arab capitals. Everyone is distancing themselves from his blatant backing for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza’s population.

                                But these are the same leaders who kept silent through 15 months of Israel’s levelling of Gaza’s homes, hospitals, schools, universities, libraries, government buildings, mosques, churches and bakeries. Then, they spoke of Israel’s right to "defend itself" even as Israel caused so much damage the United Nations warned it would take up to 80 years to rebuild the territory - that is, four generations.

                                What did they think would happen at the end of the wrecking spree they armed and fully supported? Did they imagine the people of Gaza could survive for years without homes, or hospitals, or schools, or water systems, or electricity? They knew this was the outcome: destitute Palestinians would either risk death in the ruins or be forced to move out.

                                And western politicians not only let it happen, they told us it was "proportionate", it was necessary. They smeared anyone who dissented, anyone who called for a ceasefire, anyone who went on a protest march as an antisemite and a Jew hater.

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                                Oh look, another episode of "let's pretend we care". The whole thing is a masterclass in cognitive dissonance.

                                These "leaders" are like NPCs in a badly written game – first they're all "defend yourself bro" while Gaza turns to dust, then suddenly they're clutching their pearls when someone actually says the quiet part out loud.

                                The brutal truth? You don't systematically obliterate infrastructure and then act surprised when it becomes uninhabitable. That’s like setting fire to someone’s house and then being shocked they can’t live in the ashes.

                                Western propaganda machine working overtime to paint protesters as the bad guys while they’re literally cheerleading for apocalypse. It’s peak hypocrisy, wrapped in bureaucracy, served with a side of selective amnesia.

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                                  People do not understand the significance of BRICS at all and BRICS currency. There is a concerted, sophisticated effort to get as many precious metals, gold, and oil claimed by BRICS countries as fast as possible before the BRICS currency comes out (backed by those same materials).

                                  Look at a list of the countries with the most gold (that they admit to having). The ones that aren't BRICS include Canada and US for example. Look in Africa - the countries with precious minerals are the ones being fought over. Even Ukraine is being fought over partially due to minerals.

                                  Putin owns Trump.
                                  https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373

                                  And Trump even helped out China when he withdrew from the UN Special Counsel - now China is the president. Trump is also helping out China's claims to the South China Sea by renaming the Gulf of Mexico and trying to lay claims to it.

                                  Hamas imo kidnapped those people due to KGB or other encouragement, then Israel/Netanyahu refused to rescue them and used them as proxy hostages gainst Biden to secute money because they had a deal with Trump and Putin. See Reagan and the Iran hostages that won him the elections - same thing. Otherwise the ceasefire in May 24 would have been agreed to (because Netanyahu thought Trump was going to lose and got cold feet, and maybe in a better timeline he did). I doubt Israel realizes that Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and all the other Islamic BRICS countries are going to backstab them for that space which is pretty sacred to them.

                                  Russia needs the US to become Nazis because that's what they justified the Ukraine War on and that's what they will use to invade us and Canada and Greenland for our resources. They need us to have a civil war and to be dying and poor etc before they invade.

                                  Trump will also be starting massive drug trafficking and human trafficking organizations. He also expanded the death penalty.

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/incoming-trump-administration-plans-deport-migrants-countries-rcna182896

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-floats-foreign-imprisonment-us-criminals-repeat-offenders-rcna189522

                                  https://www.semafor.com/article/02/06/2025/trump-administration-container-company-to-provide-temporary-migrant-housing

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                                  Hamas imo kidnapped those people due to KGB or other encouragement, then Israel/Netanyahu refused to rescue them and used them as proxy hostages against Biden to secure money because they had a deal with Trump and Putin

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                                    I was confused by Trump's plan, because you'd think Israel would oppose it. But what if Trump is trying to extract Gaza as quid pro quo for American aid?

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                                    At this point in time the oligarchs and politicians are simply playing Risk, dividing up the globe for themselves.

                                    Whoever ends up with the most nations under their control wins.

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                                      Oh look, another episode of "let's pretend we care". The whole thing is a masterclass in cognitive dissonance.

                                      These "leaders" are like NPCs in a badly written game – first they're all "defend yourself bro" while Gaza turns to dust, then suddenly they're clutching their pearls when someone actually says the quiet part out loud.

                                      The brutal truth? You don't systematically obliterate infrastructure and then act surprised when it becomes uninhabitable. That’s like setting fire to someone’s house and then being shocked they can’t live in the ashes.

                                      Western propaganda machine working overtime to paint protesters as the bad guys while they’re literally cheerleading for apocalypse. It’s peak hypocrisy, wrapped in bureaucracy, served with a side of selective amnesia.

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                                      Yep. All Western leaders conveniently shove all their blame on Trump. Filthy hypocrites.

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                                        Oh look, another episode of "let's pretend we care". The whole thing is a masterclass in cognitive dissonance.

                                        These "leaders" are like NPCs in a badly written game – first they're all "defend yourself bro" while Gaza turns to dust, then suddenly they're clutching their pearls when someone actually says the quiet part out loud.

                                        The brutal truth? You don't systematically obliterate infrastructure and then act surprised when it becomes uninhabitable. That’s like setting fire to someone’s house and then being shocked they can’t live in the ashes.

                                        Western propaganda machine working overtime to paint protesters as the bad guys while they’re literally cheerleading for apocalypse. It’s peak hypocrisy, wrapped in bureaucracy, served with a side of selective amnesia.

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                                        first they're all "defend yourself bro" while Gaza turns to dust

                                        Oh come on that's total bullshit... They called anybody who tried to defend themselves a terrorist.

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                                          first they're all "defend yourself bro" while Gaza turns to dust

                                          Oh come on that's total bullshit... They called anybody who tried to defend themselves a terrorist.

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                                          "bro" being Israel in this case.

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