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The Cybertruck Appears to Be More Deadly Than the Infamous Ford Pinto, According to a New Analysis

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    Really took the wind out of my satirical comment that Musk wanted to bring back the Pinto.

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    • x00z@lemmy.worldX [email protected]

      You can't use "literally" and "paraphrasing" like that.

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      You can’t use “literally” and

      .. be over 14

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        Him and his libertarian friends fuck up left and right. Crashing startups and just getting more money for another. Etc

        Yet they hold the government to a standard of being perfect and high performing with no room for failure.

        And Trump is the biggest fuckup of all these guys.

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        I see you don’t understand testing things before they are safe for humans to be inside of. So by this logic, you are saying “blowing up rockets until it works” is also saying “crash testing cars is stupid.”

        <blank stare>

        If NASA was funded properly, we may not be leaning on one private company, whose owner is a nazi, to be paving our way forward for daily space activities. Can’t say things won’t blow up during testing, but at least it won’t be headed by that guy.

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          I look at the cartoon from Byrnes and it reminds me of the US healthcare system.

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            Him and his libertarian friends fuck up left and right. Crashing startups and just getting more money for another. Etc

            Yet they hold the government to a standard of being perfect and high performing with no room for failure.

            And Trump is the biggest fuckup of all these guys.

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            Blowing up rockets until it works is a far better approach than trying to get everything to work on the first try and ending up with a hugely overpriced white elephant.

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              I would trust a Smart Fortwo more than the POS Cybertruck.

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                I love Elon Bad posts, but I think it's worthwhile to examine why Elon bad in this case.

                Like many reactionaries, Elon's business philosophy is pure tech-bro-libertarianism. And like all libertarians, he's stuck in the neoliberal mindset of less regulation (don't scrutinize) and more efficiency (let me be cheap), in order to create the safe space that industrialists need to extract, er create.

                He's literally said things like (paraphrasing)

                When I see a specification for three bolts I ask: why can't we do it with two?

                His transparent reasoning is that if he's allowed to cut corners, he'll save money today and consequences can be dealt with when they arise.

                He's following the software model of release a minimally viable product and patch it later. Only instead of user frustration at being beta testers, you fucking die maybe.

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                I think it's also worth noting that Elon Musk is a scammer. Every other word out of his mouth is likely a lie. He's been claiming to already have technologies available for his Tesla cars, his SpaceX rockets, etc, all ready to go and.. it never happened. Tesla full self driving? The Tesla taxis? SpaceX on Mars? The Tesla laughably stupid robots? Even those were faked.

                Claims after claims for decades and literally no results

                The guy is a full on bait and switch yet everyone seems to lap up everything this scammer says.

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                  I love Elon Bad posts, but I think it's worthwhile to examine why Elon bad in this case.

                  Like many reactionaries, Elon's business philosophy is pure tech-bro-libertarianism. And like all libertarians, he's stuck in the neoliberal mindset of less regulation (don't scrutinize) and more efficiency (let me be cheap), in order to create the safe space that industrialists need to extract, er create.

                  He's literally said things like (paraphrasing)

                  When I see a specification for three bolts I ask: why can't we do it with two?

                  His transparent reasoning is that if he's allowed to cut corners, he'll save money today and consequences can be dealt with when they arise.

                  He's following the software model of release a minimally viable product and patch it later. Only instead of user frustration at being beta testers, you fucking die maybe.

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                  is pure tech-bro-libertarianism

                  Tech bros are usually not libertarian. Being excited about a failed solution to only one of libertarian problems (blockchain) doesn't make one libertarian, too.

                  And like all libertarians, he’s stuck in the neoliberal mindset of less regulation (don’t scrutinize) and more efficiency (let me be cheap)

                  That's not libertarianism, more like Ayn Rand and her inverse bolshevism with good mighty benevolent industrial aristocracy and bad stupid mischievous everyone else. She even reads like one of Valentin Pikul's "historical novels", only with inverted good and bad guys. That ideology is radically different from libertarianism, instead of freedom, voluntarism, non-aggression and such, resulting in a free society with free contracts, Ayn Rand says that some people are better than the others and thus freedom, voluntarism, non-aggression etc are measures by relative value of the offender and the victim. It's jungle law.

                  Anyway, it's not "neoliberal" either, anti-monopoly regulations are part of the "ideal" free market model. And I think Elon likes patents and trademarks, which are not necessarily there (and in libertarianism are not a thing).

                  His transparent reasoning is that if he’s allowed to cut corners, he’ll save money today and consequences can be dealt with when they arise.

                  You might have seen the recent news about Tesla sales falling. Maybe it took so long because of accumulated trust into regulators not allowing car makers to make dangerous crap. So - then maybe in other reality, where Elon came to an industry already allowed to cut corners, he'd go bankrupt by now because of consumers understanding who he is.

                  Life is complex, I'm not saying he's right, just that.

                  He’s following the software model of release a minimally viable product and patch it later. Only instead of user frustration at being beta testers, you fucking die maybe.

                  The way software industry works, a lot of people have died due to its failures. One has to count people who've committed suicide due to events cause by some bug or even UX problem, people who failed to communicate something in time, thus possibly saving someone, people who disclosed what they shouldn't have, thus possibly causing a criminal death, medical errors due to software problems, wars, catastrophes.

                  But yes, it's already allowed to do that and Elon wants such wonders in other industries, so that we'd have a bit of natural selection in our daily lives. Dystopian cyberpunk is called dystopian because it's not utopian, but being a billionaire, I guess, one would dream of living in such instead of utopian version of boring past.

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                    You can’t use “literally” and

                    .. be over 14

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                    That's literally not true.

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                    • F [email protected]

                      Thank you, my pedantic friend. (I say this because I'm often the one making the comment and getting the eyerolls)

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                      Normally I don't point it out. But this one was just too much.

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                        I see you don’t understand testing things before they are safe for humans to be inside of. So by this logic, you are saying “blowing up rockets until it works” is also saying “crash testing cars is stupid.”

                        <blank stare>

                        If NASA was funded properly, we may not be leaning on one private company, whose owner is a nazi, to be paving our way forward for daily space activities. Can’t say things won’t blow up during testing, but at least it won’t be headed by that guy.

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                        The issue isn't the way of testing, but the two standards. If Musk blows up rockets in testing it's a genius move with rapid iteration. If NASA does this it's irresponsible handling of tax payer's money on risky endeavors.

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                          IRL owners are something else to deal with. they get mad when you point and laugh at their rolling dumpster

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                          I sped up and passed one on the freeway just to give him the finger. He even looked like pre-gender affirming surgery Elon. Who looks a lot like Andrew Tate.

                          There's 3-4 Wankpazers around here and I see them around once a week. I flip them off every chance I get.

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                            Is it me or are there guts in this picture?

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                            • F [email protected]

                              Look, all I'm asking is that Tesla investors lose all their goddamn money.

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                              I would love it if the board voted Elon out. I know it won’t happen because they’re a bunch of sycophants, but “Elons antics and poor decisions are causing us to lose money” is a great reason to do so.

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                                Blowing up rockets until it works is a far better approach than trying to get everything to work on the first try and ending up with a hugely overpriced white elephant.

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                                Sure, if it was cheaper than just doing it correctly the first time which it's not

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                                  I look at the cartoon from Byrnes and it reminds me of the US healthcare system.

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                                  ¿Por qué no las dos?

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                                    To be fair, you made a good point. In the article it states pretty definitively that the NHTSA hasn't been allowed to have the Cybertruck independently crash tested which is bogus as hell.

                                    The fact that it can't force that from any car manufacturer doesn't really make sense. They haven't even received relevant data related to Tesla's in house crash testing and I can't even begin to understand how that's legal.

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                                    They will be neutered even further soon, they're on the project 2025 list.

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                                      Normally I don't point it out. But this one was just too much.

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                                      You just literally said (interpretive paraphrasing),
                                      "I like big butts and I cannot lie"

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                                        Hackey, but I guess some plastic would be enough to stop metal on metal contact and prevent sparks?

                                        Not that my Miata "temporarily" has cardboard wrapped in tape wrapped around the cold air intake pipe to prevent it from rubbing against the frame. Nope, definitely not.

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                                        My challenger's whole plastic front end is connected with zip ties at this point. Those pathetic plastic clips they use just break apart if you try to work on them. I realize my solution to preventing plastic dragging on the road is less important than preventing metal on metal contact though.

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                                          No. Shit. Sherlock.

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