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Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.

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  • L [email protected]

    What else do people expect them to do?

    1.- Refuse-

    2.- Apply only the part of the name change that's actually covered by US jurisdiction. The Gulf of Mexico extends noticeably beyond US's borders.

    But hey this is Google we're talking about.

    Besides, it still say Gulf of Mexico if you’re outside the USA.

    If I'm a eg.: Colombian, it should be "Gulf of Mexico" "Golfo de México" wherever I stand, not "Gulf of America".

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    Apply only the part of the name change that’s actually covered by US jurisdiction.

    Strictly speaking, per the EO, this is what they should have done. The EO defines the area to be renamed as:

    the U.S. Continental Shelf area bounded on the northeast, north, and northwest by the States of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida and extending to the seaward boundary with Mexico and Cuba in the area formerly named as the Gulf of Mexico

    You can see exactly where that seaward boundary is on this map: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_ECS_Regions_2023.png

    The area described is less than half the whole Gulf of Mexico.

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    • knightly@pawb.socialK [email protected]

      You really weren't.

      You should learn to hide your power level, lol~

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      I'm just the messenger, kid. I'm not even in the USA, I'm in a different hemisphere watching with popcorn.

      Good luck over there 🫡

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      • C [email protected]

        Yes, and Congress delegated that authority in 1947 via Public Law 242, creating the US Board on Geographic Names, under the Secretary of the Interior, part of the executive branch. The President has the authority to direct the Secretary.

        You can speak as confidently as you like, but you're still wrong. Feel free to learn: https://www.usgs.gov/us-board-on-geographic-names

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        Did you not read the page you linked?

        That org was "established in its present form by Public Law in 1947 to maintain uniform geographic name usage throughout the Federal Government."

        It's a standards-setting org that adjudicates between other agencies of the government when there is disagreement between them about a place name, it isn't entitled to rename things everyone was already in agreement about, lol~

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          I thought they just did that in the US

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            Because Google is a US company, and not in a position to tell the US government to take a walk, that's why.

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            I mean, they are to an extent. The laws of the US are ostensibly supposed to allow citizens to call things whatever they want. If the government wants to throw a hissy fit and say the constitution is meaningless after all, let them do it. At least then we could give up all of the pretense that they are supposed to care about what it says.

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              FUCK YEAH, DO IT DO IT FUCKING DO IT! Please sue the fuck outta those shitfucks!

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                I mean, they are to an extent. The laws of the US are ostensibly supposed to allow citizens to call things whatever they want. If the government wants to throw a hissy fit and say the constitution is meaningless after all, let them do it. At least then we could give up all of the pretense that they are supposed to care about what it says.

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                to allow citizens to call things whatever they want.

                I very much doubt that privilege extends to a mapmaker

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                  Restrict Google from doing business.in the country altogether.

                  Have phones switch to some open non Google platform

                  Fuck google, microsoft, apple, they're all evil at this point

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                    Don’t “threaten”. Any asshole can make a threat. GO AHEAD AND DO IT.

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                    • O [email protected]

                      This is accurate. Here's a screenshot from my friend in France.

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                      Ok, that's absurd. I thought it makes sense to change the name in the US if that's the official name in the US (according to the USGS data, which has always been the official source for this info). But translating the US name into other languages that already have a name for it makes no sense.

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                      • knightly@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                        Did you not read the page you linked?

                        That org was "established in its present form by Public Law in 1947 to maintain uniform geographic name usage throughout the Federal Government."

                        It's a standards-setting org that adjudicates between other agencies of the government when there is disagreement between them about a place name, it isn't entitled to rename things everyone was already in agreement about, lol~

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                        Yes, it sets the official name of each place. That's what everyone here is talking about.

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                        • O [email protected]

                          Funny thing - I just checked yandex maps (because I'm bored) and it still shows "gulf of mexico" on it.

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                          Who owns Yandex? Why would they need to pledge fealty to the new king?

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                            class action please, so we can let our powers combine

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                              Again, this is one of the dumbest fucking wastes of money I've ever seen. Waste of labor from the top down. Waste of resources. This is purely a pride move. It's the gulf of Mexico and always has been. There are American songs about the gulf of Mexico. It's history. I have said it before and I'll say it again, I fucking hate this timeline. This shit is wild. This stuff now days is a mockery of our world.

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                                Who owns Yandex? Why would they need to pledge fealty to the new king?

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                                I believe its a Russian company

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                                  Because Google is a US company, and not in a position to tell the US government to take a walk, that's why.

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                                  Did the US government tell Google to censor Tiannamen Square, or are they a global company that has to observe more than the whims of a single country?

                                  I hope other countries start renaming the US soon.

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                                    I can confirm that it shows up as both for me. I'm not in US or Mexico, and it shows as "Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)". The info I saw was that it shows as GoA in the US, GoM in Mexico, and both everywhere else. At least 2 of those are true, I'm guessing all 3 are

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                                    Same here in Canada where we are not supposed to be a part of this insanity

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                                      Yes, it sets the official name of each place. That's what everyone here is talking about.

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                                      Again, read the page you linked:

                                      President Benjamin Harrison signed an Executive Order establishing the BGN and giving it authority to resolve unsettled geographic names questions.

                                      Key word: "unsettled"

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                                      • knightly@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                        That would be less inaccurate, lol.

                                        And no. I'll be a pedantic asshole to anyone who pretends that Trump is anything other than one of President Musk's assistants.

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                                        i feel your pain and disillusionment but it is what it is. The real "asshole" is changing the world with his Sharpie.

                                        Good luck to you for the next 4 years

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                                          I thought they just did that in the US

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                                          It's Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America) outside of the USA and just Gulf of Mexico in Mexico. Absolute insanity

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