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The Gaza 'war' was a lie, as is the ceasefire. Trump just told you

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  • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

    Have you read American Kompromat? What about seen Active Measures? What about the literal protests happening TODAY in Slovakia? What about Georgia? What about Romania? South Korea?

    May you suffer for hiding this information and pretending it isn't real. May as much harm come to you as you have done to the world through suppressing it. I curse you.

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    Once again Biden held all the leverage on Israel. But he bypassed congress to send Israel bombs.

    Your argument makes zero sense it requires no literature to understand who held the strings

    It is not Putin but Israel controlling America.

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      Once again Biden held all the leverage on Israel. But he bypassed congress to send Israel bombs.

      Your argument makes zero sense it requires no literature to understand who held the strings

      It is not Putin but Israel controlling America.

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      How can he have leverage over hostages he has no access to? If Israel says, "give us more funding and we won't bomb the hostages and we will work to free them," then that's what Biden did. Do I think he did well? No. But that's not my argument, whether Biden did well. My argument is what Trump did behind the scenes.

      Trump coordinated with Netanyahu and Putin who were in charge of their respective countries. Trump didn't have to be president for this, obviously, it wouldn't have worked if he was because he'd be blackmailing himself lol.

      Maybe if you keep chanting "it makes zero sense," it'll be true 👍 Israel isn't "in charge" of the US (source needed, you sound like MTG and Jewish Space Lasers ppl) but they certainly were using our hostages against us.

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        Biden also lied about it

        Hurrrrr durrrrr

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        Both sides both sides both sides. Let’s destroy America, woo hoo!

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        • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

          How can he have leverage over hostages he has no access to? If Israel says, "give us more funding and we won't bomb the hostages and we will work to free them," then that's what Biden did. Do I think he did well? No. But that's not my argument, whether Biden did well. My argument is what Trump did behind the scenes.

          Trump coordinated with Netanyahu and Putin who were in charge of their respective countries. Trump didn't have to be president for this, obviously, it wouldn't have worked if he was because he'd be blackmailing himself lol.

          Maybe if you keep chanting "it makes zero sense," it'll be true 👍 Israel isn't "in charge" of the US (source needed, you sound like MTG and Jewish Space Lasers ppl) but they certainly were using our hostages against us.

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          How can he have leverage over hostages he has no access to

          By forcing Israel to accept the ceasefire deal which Israel rejected in June or block their weapons. The ceasefire deal which Trump forced Israel to accept.

          What do you think of this meme by the way?

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            How can he have leverage over hostages he has no access to

            By forcing Israel to accept the ceasefire deal which Israel rejected in June or block their weapons. The ceasefire deal which Trump forced Israel to accept.

            What do you think of this meme by the way?

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            Israel accepted it when Trump became president because that was their plan all along, and Hamas accepted it because they also knew Trump didn't care about the hostages.

            My guess is that Biden was blocking bigger weapons, and if he withdrew completely, Israel would use those and kill the hostages. So he couldn't withdraw weapons aid if he wanted the hostages back alive if possible. Because Israel would kill them, because Israel was using them as proxy hostages. As stated.

            Disagree, fine, but this is a pretty consistent and clear situation.

            Your meme is some cringe old man shit

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            • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

              Israel accepted it when Trump became president because that was their plan all along, and Hamas accepted it because they also knew Trump didn't care about the hostages.

              My guess is that Biden was blocking bigger weapons, and if he withdrew completely, Israel would use those and kill the hostages. So he couldn't withdraw weapons aid if he wanted the hostages back alive if possible. Because Israel would kill them, because Israel was using them as proxy hostages. As stated.

              Disagree, fine, but this is a pretty consistent and clear situation.

              Your meme is some cringe old man shit

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              My guess is that Biden was blocking bigger weapons, and if he withdrew completely, Israel would use those and kill the hostages

              You mean like how Israel was already killing the hostages by decimating every single building in Gaza?

              https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/09/biden-administration-emergency-authority-tank-shells-israel

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                My guess is that Biden was blocking bigger weapons, and if he withdrew completely, Israel would use those and kill the hostages

                You mean like how Israel was already killing the hostages by decimating every single building in Gaza?

                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/09/biden-administration-emergency-authority-tank-shells-israel

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                Yes, I do mean that. Like how they start killing 1 hostage a day or week on purpose to add pressure. Exactly.

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                • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                  Yes, I do mean that. Like how they start killing 1 hostage a day or week on purpose to add pressure. Exactly.

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                  Add pressure to who? Israel would kill every single hostage instantly if they could. The "problem" is they cannot. Because they do not know where they are.

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                    Add pressure to who? Israel would kill every single hostage instantly if they could. The "problem" is they cannot. Because they do not know where they are.

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                    The probably could have if they used bigger bombs which the US didn't allow for that reasons

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                    • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                      The probably could have if they used bigger bombs which the US didn't allow for that reasons

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                      One halted shipment of 2000 pound bombs after Israel flattened Gaza is enough to convince you that Joe " I am a Zionist" Biden did not mean it?

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                        One halted shipment of 2000 pound bombs after Israel flattened Gaza is enough to convince you that Joe " I am a Zionist" Biden did not mean it?

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                        It's not that I think Joe Biden isn't a Zionist; it's that he didn't want to sink his campaign by having all the hostages die AND the war on Gaza amped up, rather than just getting the hostages free and at least appearing to have a ceasefire.

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                        • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                          It's not that I think Joe Biden isn't a Zionist; it's that he didn't want to sink his campaign by having all the hostages die AND the war on Gaza amped up, rather than just getting the hostages free and at least appearing to have a ceasefire.

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                          What is this https://youtu.be/dbn4i7_CFIM

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                            What is this https://youtu.be/dbn4i7_CFIM

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                            It’s not that I think Joe Biden isn’t a Zionist; it’s that he didn’t want to sink his campaign by having all the hostages die AND the war on Gaza amped up, rather than just getting the hostages free and at least appearing to have a ceasefire.

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                            • G [email protected]

                              On the plus side by helping get Trump elected you've made transgender people afraid to go outside and set back the civil rights movement to the early 70s. So you didn't actually stop the genocide, you just helped accelerate it, and screwed over a bunch of minorities! What a big win for you!

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                              Maybe your country shouldn't have send bombs then you genocide apologist pos.

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                                Don't forget ICE going into schools and boarding schoolbuses so they can arrest Hispanic-looking kids. They didn't just accelerate the genocide, they imported it home.

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                                How is that a bad thing? Genociders deserve to get genocided.

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                                • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                                  People do not understand the significance of BRICS at all and BRICS currency. There is a concerted, sophisticated effort to get as many precious metals, gold, and oil claimed by BRICS countries as fast as possible before the BRICS currency comes out (backed by those same materials).

                                  Look at a list of the countries with the most gold (that they admit to having). The ones that aren't BRICS include Canada and US for example. Look in Africa - the countries with precious minerals are the ones being fought over. Even Ukraine is being fought over partially due to minerals.

                                  Putin owns Trump.
                                  https://lemmy.world/comment/13431373

                                  And Trump even helped out China when he withdrew from the UN Special Counsel - now China is the president. Trump is also helping out China's claims to the South China Sea by renaming the Gulf of Mexico and trying to lay claims to it.

                                  Hamas imo kidnapped those people due to KGB or other encouragement, then Israel/Netanyahu refused to rescue them and used them as proxy hostages gainst Biden to secute money because they had a deal with Trump and Putin. See Reagan and the Iran hostages that won him the elections - same thing. Otherwise the ceasefire in May 24 would have been agreed to (because Netanyahu thought Trump was going to lose and got cold feet, and maybe in a better timeline he did). I doubt Israel realizes that Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and all the other Islamic BRICS countries are going to backstab them for that space which is pretty sacred to them.

                                  Russia needs the US to become Nazis because that's what they justified the Ukraine War on and that's what they will use to invade us and Canada and Greenland for our resources. They need us to have a civil war and to be dying and poor etc before they invade.

                                  Trump will also be starting massive drug trafficking and human trafficking organizations. He also expanded the death penalty.

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/incoming-trump-administration-plans-deport-migrants-countries-rcna182896

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-floats-foreign-imprisonment-us-criminals-repeat-offenders-rcna189522

                                  https://www.semafor.com/article/02/06/2025/trump-administration-container-company-to-provide-temporary-migrant-housing

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                                  Ah yes this is all a conspiracy against murica lmao

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                                  • J [email protected]

                                    So you put makeup on your face before you feed it to the leopards? Kinda like icing?

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                                    You're really glad about people you don't like suffering, no?

                                    Schadenfreude is still cheering for people's pain, you know?

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                                    • G [email protected]

                                      On the plus side by helping get Trump elected you've made transgender people afraid to go outside and set back the civil rights movement to the early 70s. So you didn't actually stop the genocide, you just helped accelerate it, and screwed over a bunch of minorities! What a big win for you!

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                                      Funny you think it's appropriate to use sarcasm when talking about people getting bombed.

                                      Scumbag.

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                                      • G [email protected]

                                        On the plus side by helping get Trump elected you've made transgender people afraid to go outside and set back the civil rights movement to the early 70s. So you didn't actually stop the genocide, you just helped accelerate it, and screwed over a bunch of minorities! What a big win for you!

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                                        Not everybody is american and nobody helped getting trump elected but your genocidal leaders. I hope the US is toppled and we implement a widespread denazification campain for everyone of yours who were cowardy enough to pick the lesser evil.

                                        You know, still evil, proceed to the re-education camp, bitch.

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