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Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.

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  • C [email protected]

    Haha, seeing you being downvoted for pointing a fact, tell me everything about the people frequenting this sub.

    Obviously apple can't be fascist, because Tim Apple is gay!

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    Except no one said that you idiot.

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      It was changed by executive order, which the president has the authority to do. Google doesn't get to go "nuh-uh" and keep it the same.

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      Executive orders are not laws. You do know that, right?

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      • I [email protected]

        If you want to know more about how the US government works, I'm not the person to educate you.

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        Clearly, since you think an executive order is a law.

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        • Y [email protected]

          Don't sue- just threaten to block some of googles services in your country and they'll come around real quick. Hit em where it hurts. Google isn't hurting for lawyers.

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          #144

          You have to hit them in the wallet. Every time Trump does or says anything about tariffs, just starting increasing tariffs on all Tesla products.

          We can't hit Trump directly but we can hit his little friends quite easily.

          Musk will have an absolute meltdown on twitter of course, but if you just ignore him he'll give up. He's already shown that he is prepared to back down if he's actually facing financial penalties.

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          • S [email protected]

            I used to be a "let's find some mutual understanding" guy but now that they've dumped this disaster on the nation I have no sympathy for them. Lost your healthcare? Cuts in services? Sucks to be you...

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            Apparently a lot of them are losing their farms. Which tells me that the US had too many farms.

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              Look we're wasting our hard earned tax payer money on crazy fraudulent things like science, education, weather, feeding children, helping the poor, medicine... Dumb things like that. And you're gonna tell me that changing the name of a body of water to include the greatest God damn country in America is a waste? Next thing you know you're gonna stand there and tell me that poor people should be able to afford a hospital visit.

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              Republicans are full of it anyway.

              Study after study has shown that a nationalized healthcare system increases a nation's GDP in the long run. After all, people who are unable to work due to sickness or death that were caused by preventable condition, don't pay taxes.

              For everyone else, not having to pay for private health care gives them more disposable income. Which means they spend it on other things which makes businesses more profitable.

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              • leadore@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                Whenever I see Gulf of America mentioned, in my head it sounds like "This is America" in the Childish Gambino song.

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                Gulf of America, don't catch you shippin now, look where I'm fishin now, potus be trippin yo (woo), gulf of america

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                  Everyone needs to get used to ignoring this bullshit. The Gulf of America thing isn't important. It doesn't effect anyone, and there's far too many posts about it when there are real things to pay attention to. This is purely a distraction. Stop giving it attention.

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                  • E [email protected]

                    Wait what do they call the European Union then because that's still EU in Spanish as well.

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                    It's UE in Spanish, from Unión Europea. (Non-doubled letters because it's a single Union, there's no plural like in "States").

                    Sometimes people in Spain do use the English acronyms for both EU/USA, but I don't think I've seen it often. Both UE and EEUU are more common from what I've seen, and also people rarely say these out loud, it's exclusively a written language problem.

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                    • C [email protected]

                      Everyone needs to get used to ignoring this bullshit. The Gulf of America thing isn't important. It doesn't effect anyone, and there's far too many posts about it when there are real things to pay attention to. This is purely a distraction. Stop giving it attention.

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                      There is one part thats relevant, and thats the government suing AsPo for refusing to comply. Thats a direct attack on the First Amendment

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                      • leadore@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                        Whenever I see Gulf of America mentioned, in my head it sounds like "This is America" in the Childish Gambino song.

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                        What I see is "Gulf of Swastika".

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                        • R [email protected]

                          The word "America" is not reserved for the USA alone and belongs to the entire Americas: North America, Central America, South America. As such if they want to rename the Gulf of Mexico then it should be the Gulf of North America of which both the USA and Mexico are a part of and share borders around that body of water.

                          Furthermore the word "America" isn't an English word but the German bastardization of an Italian word. Specifically the word "America" was coined by Martin Waldseemüller a German cartographer who named the Americas after Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci who explored the new continents for Spain and Portugal.

                          Amerigo Vespucci - History Cartoon ~ Innovative History ~ YouTube.

                          So if this is the big orange blow-fish's attempt to dis on Mexico then it's pretty petty much like everything he does to massage his massive ego.

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                          You wanna know what’s cool about language? It changes over time. So while the origin of a word may mean one thing, it can eventually mean something else as well or even something entirely different. Cool used to just mean temperature, but it eventually also came to refer to the attitude of a person or even how likable they are in common usage. Nimrod was a mythical hunter but thanks to Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd now means a stupid person. Same with “America” referring originally a set of continents. In common usage it has come to mean referencing the United States of America, mostly because people are lazy and is so much easier to say “American” than it is to describe something as “from the United States of America”. You can resist the change all you want, but eventually you sound like some old person that says automobile instead of car since car originally meant an individual portion of a train.

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                          • C [email protected]

                            Everyone needs to get used to ignoring this bullshit. The Gulf of America thing isn't important. It doesn't effect anyone, and there's far too many posts about it when there are real things to pay attention to. This is purely a distraction. Stop giving it attention.

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                            It's the details that make up the whole picture.

                            As an isolated situation, the renaming thing may be stupid and not worth giving any credence. Energy can be spent resisting elsewhere in more useful places. However along with the rest of the actions of billionare corpos that kissed the ring, it's part of the overall trend with devastating consequences. Bullshit details shouldn't be ignored, but acknowledged as "they're fucking us from all directions right now and waging war on reality, and we really should stop letting them".

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                            • E [email protected]

                              You have to hit them in the wallet. Every time Trump does or says anything about tariffs, just starting increasing tariffs on all Tesla products.

                              We can't hit Trump directly but we can hit his little friends quite easily.

                              Musk will have an absolute meltdown on twitter of course, but if you just ignore him he'll give up. He's already shown that he is prepared to back down if he's actually facing financial penalties.

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                              Tragically we have a dried apricot ceding power to the highest bidder. There isn't much for other countries to do directly unless they are bidding directly for "sock puppet time" or getting in a pissing match with a clown that makes a juggalo look smart.

                              This is more about controlling (collateral) damage: in this case megacorps "kissing the ring" via stupid shit like Google is doing presently. Countries can fuck with corporations far easier than we can (guess who paid for sock puppet time...)

                              Google is clearly attempting to make themselves more "saleable" to the ruling party by dropping things like month names or renaming universally accepted names of global features. Right now their -baseline- is where we are at currently. A lawsuit does next to nothing. It's an operating cost. A country threatening to blacklist their service will hit them cleanly in the only thing that matters: their shareholders. Our biggest corporations have time and again rolled over for this tactic. They may have elevated themselves to a godlike status within the states but they are vulnerable outside our shores.

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                              • C [email protected]

                                Since when is the big tech the arbiter of truth? It might come as a surprise to you, but Google and Apple don't care about your holy war against Trump.

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                                You think Google and Apple should call it the Gulf of America?

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                                • C [email protected]

                                  Maybe. I'm on wifi provided by a Mexican telecom. It's probably my US sim. The comment i replied to said "it shows as this in mexico" and my point was, no, not for everyone. I'm not interested enough to try to nail down the exact reason.

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                                  If it's in english and it shows up like that then it's most likely because you have your language set to english (USA).

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                                    This is stupid. Google is doing it with their normal process, labeling the USA as a sensitive country in their system and changing the label only for the sensitive snowflakes. So there is no harm to Mexicans in Mexico.

                                    What sort of damages would she assert anyway? That her country suffers in a significant way from a Google Maps label that can only be seen from the sensitive country? How so?

                                    And if it's a political move what is she hoping to achieve? Google will never cave to the USA before Mexico, they depend more on their US operations than their Mexican ones. So she can't achieve anything politically. Does she want to draw even more attention to a losing fight? A losing fight over mere symbolism no less? Why?

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                                      This is stupid. Google is doing it with their normal process, labeling the USA as a sensitive country in their system and changing the label only for the sensitive snowflakes. So there is no harm to Mexicans in Mexico.

                                      What sort of damages would she assert anyway? That her country suffers in a significant way from a Google Maps label that can only be seen from the sensitive country? How so?

                                      And if it's a political move what is she hoping to achieve? Google will never cave to the USA before Mexico, they depend more on their US operations than their Mexican ones. So she can't achieve anything politically. Does she want to draw even more attention to a losing fight? A losing fight over mere symbolism no less? Why?

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                                      The Gulf of America label can be seen worldwide as it's Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)

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                                        Do it honey. Make em pay for suckin orange ass

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                                        • lorips@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                                          The Gulf of America label can be seen worldwide as it's Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)

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                                          Oh, sorry. You're right. I was wrong on that point. I didn't realize it showed the sensitive label in parenthesis to others.

                                          I would maintain the rest of the argument though, with the Mexican (and global) point of view being the more prominently displayed, there is no significant harm, and she doesn't stand to gain anything from pursuing a civil case, nor politically.

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