Bad UX is keeping the majority of people away from Lemmy
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This reddit post likely has tens if not hundreds of thousands of views, look at the top comment.
Lemmy is losing so many potential new users because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.
What can we do?
Lemmy UX is identical to old Reddit. Come on.
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Man. You just gave me an idea (which would matter if I wasn’t a complete idiot).
Instead of servers that all attempt to be a sort of clone of Reddit, servers could focus on content similar to the way subreddits work.
So you’d join any one of these servers and federate with other servers just like now, only content would be focused between servers.
Example:
This server is a games server. It has /c/games, /c/fallout, /c/vintagegaming, etc.
This server will focus on news and politics. It has /c/worldnews, /c/marketnews, etc.
Sure, it would still have the issue of being fractured, but it would narrow it down so much that it would be more appealing and easier to navigate.
It’s probably too late for that.
Ultimately, I’m happy with the fediverse. Algorithms aren’t dictating what I see. There’s no profit incentive that will lead to bad decisions, so when bad decisions are made, folks will talk about it and come to a solution.
I miss old Reddit, but it’s gone.
thats topics lol, piefed and mbin
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The tough part for me is that the reason I use Reddit is for bullshitting with people about sports teams I like. Lets look at some of the communities here.
- Baltimore Orioles -- There's one on lemmy.world with 150 subscribers. The last post is from 4 months ago and it's a game thread posted by a bot with 0 comments. There's also one on fanaticus.social with the last post from 7 months ago.
- Carolina Panthers -- There's one on fanaticus.social with 3 subscribers.
- Miami Heat -- There's one on lemmy.world with 10 subscribers.
- Pittsburgh Penguins -- Again, lemmy.world with 11 subscribers.
I'd love to get off reddit but until there's actually people to talk with, this place is just never going to meet the needs of sports content that I use Reddit for. I had no interest in Bluesky until some people actually got on it as well. The Shutdown Fullcast for college football brought a bunch of people and fans there so it gave some utility to the site. Without utility, there's no reason to be here.
Yeah, people actively surrounding one water cooler aren't likely to go across the room to a different water cooler with no one there to start a new community. There's a lot of mental and social effort required there.
In the news in tech communities the moderation was becoming oppressive. If someone pisses all over the water cooler, then people are a lot more likely to change it up.
We see the same thing in the niche video gaming communities.
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If the miniscule effort of signing up for a platform keeps someone away, they probably wouldn't be a good community member anyway.
It's not minescule. I remember actually taking days because I don't understand where and how to. You're a good person I can tell so stop being elitist as fuck it's childlike
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Unless we fix the UX problems in Lemmy, a Bluesky-like alternative of reddit is going to pop up, and overtake Lemmy, like what happened with Mastadon
Easy fix, if it isnt federated I give them a one star and talk about how im tired of ads and corporate influence in my discussion forums so id rather use the threadiverse, prob does nothing but if it gets even one person to google and switch it was worth the 5 seconds it took to type
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Easy fix, if it isnt federated I give them a one star and talk about how im tired of ads and corporate influence in my discussion forums so id rather use the threadiverse, prob does nothing but if it gets even one person to google and switch it was worth the 5 seconds it took to type
I did this for a couples posts that popped up on redditalrs that werent lemmy, they were definitelty alread netuered and ready for ads, worse than reddit
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IMHO, the UX is bad, but the user base is also repellant. It's further left than Reddit so most people who jump in bounce right off. That's going to be difficult to change organically. Especially because most users respond to this with "good." So there's definitely no appetite to appeal to a wider audience. I predict Lemmy will become increasingly ideologically partisan and isolated.
So you, a normal person, join and instantly when a meme or comment allude to being altruistic, you leave? It's so unfathomable to me how this is probably true. So many people need the world to be egomaniac or they get uncomfortable. Maybe they're the problem though
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Unless we use one of those as the default UI, the problem isn't solved, people will give up before knowing of their existence.
You can literally just share phtn.app and say its how you use the threadiverse/lemmy, it doesnt need to be hosted on a site with the same lemmy instance you can login to any account through these frontends
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It's worse than reddit. It's more liberal.
Literally in this thread is another person calling it too left and another calling it too right.
You notice the things you don't like more. Political ideology is always going to have a spread the problem is the argumentative user base and user self superiority. -
This reddit post likely has tens if not hundreds of thousands of views, look at the top comment.
Lemmy is losing so many potential new users because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.
What can we do?
endless wars of who's federeated with who
i've been here for months and months, i might have seen this mentioned as an aside once or twice. but "endless wars"?
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because the UX sucks for the vast majority of people.
No, it isn't.
The UX is fine. It's clean, fast, and functional. Anyone who is too fancy for "old Reddit" can stay on new Reddit with the bots and Xers. They'd just come over and be nothing but insufferable anyway.
o.oMultiple front ends and themes are available. In the end, we're here for the conversation, not fancy graphics, sounds, or CSS trash.
If someone can't get past picking a server or simple graphics, the likelyhood of them being any benefit here is minimal. The more is not always the merrier.
Half the fun of lemmy is all the frontends, apps, and customization options in general sprinkeld about
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If the miniscule effort of signing up for a platform keeps someone away, they probably wouldn't be a good community member anyway.
Eh, I kinda get it. I think there should be a default instance with curated feeds coming auto-subscribed into.
I don't remember if this is the case since I signed up almost a year ago, and I use on the phone exclusively with Voyager
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What the federse needs is an app that makes the concept intuitive. I've been toying with an idea and how to monetize it, but I have no knowledge on how to actually make it
You've been toying with the idea of making money off an app often, let me guess?
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So you, a normal person, join and instantly when a meme or comment allude to being altruistic, you leave? It's so unfathomable to me how this is probably true. So many people need the world to be egomaniac or they get uncomfortable. Maybe they're the problem though
To be entirely honest if anybody like that comes here and bounces off that's great.
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The tough part for me is that the reason I use Reddit is for bullshitting with people about sports teams I like. Lets look at some of the communities here.
- Baltimore Orioles -- There's one on lemmy.world with 150 subscribers. The last post is from 4 months ago and it's a game thread posted by a bot with 0 comments. There's also one on fanaticus.social with the last post from 7 months ago.
- Carolina Panthers -- There's one on fanaticus.social with 3 subscribers.
- Miami Heat -- There's one on lemmy.world with 10 subscribers.
- Pittsburgh Penguins -- Again, lemmy.world with 11 subscribers.
I'd love to get off reddit but until there's actually people to talk with, this place is just never going to meet the needs of sports content that I use Reddit for. I had no interest in Bluesky until some people actually got on it as well. The Shutdown Fullcast for college football brought a bunch of people and fans there so it gave some utility to the site. Without utility, there's no reason to be here.
Well the only way to change that is to engage with those communities and provide content. Ofc. community building isnt easy.
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Half the fun of lemmy is all the frontends, apps, and customization options in general sprinkeld about
And then different servers even have different options so you're not stuck with one person's view of what things look like.
I was kind of upset that Kbin went under, lots of cool features, same data.
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The problem is that in order to become a proper reddit replacement Lemmy needs enough users to create niche communities.
There are plenty of active communities related to technology and politics but there is no equivalent to r/batmanarkham or r/letgirlshavefun.
Plus there are plenty of communities that are all but abandoned.
Ppl gotta stop saying stuff like this and spend their energy posting and making those communtiies instead, comment in new and growing communities, post in them at least subscribe and upvote/downvote, do something other than just complain (more of a blanket statement, than at you)
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I assumed (probably incorrectly) that users would be visiting Lemmy via apps, so the UX would depend on which app they used.
I don't know. I have a soft spot for Lemmy. The interactions here seem more genuine less about updoots.
While not necessarily about the upvotes I find the users here are still very much about being Right
or trying to be the most liked and therefore the most conformed to their community.The updoots may not matter but people for sure act like they do or want them to.
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Is there even a point to which one you pick? I just picked .kbin because I liked the UI, and when that fell apart I moved to .world mostly at random.
Is there really a large difference between them?
World has no piracy communities they are blocked, kbin had microbloggings (mastodon) if you liked that, mbin kbin.earth is fork if kbin, still around. Piefed has the most potential.
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endless wars of who's federeated with who
i've been here for months and months, i might have seen this mentioned as an aside once or twice. but "endless wars"?
Very inside baseball opinion. It's like me describing reddit as "endless drama" because I read every thread on subreddit drama.
