Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.
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Es el chapulín colorado
No contaban con mi astucia!
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Americans wish the US became Canada's 11th province
I'd much rather they make California the 13th province.
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Can someone just make a mod or something for g-maps to name all American names to like Spanish ones? Nuevo York, Guashintón Distrito de Columbia, that kinda stuff.
Guayinton or Guallinton fits better
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Come on, guys. You have drug cartels. Surely they have a guy named Luigi. Doesn't Trump want to declare war on Mexico or some insane shit like that?
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If we’re going to play that demagogic game, why not make “United States of America” be shown as “United States of North America” to reclaim the continent name back? Companies will comply if it’s an official request.
They are both states united and in north america....
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I'd much rather they make California the 13th province.
You guys are alright, let’s join forces and make a maple bacon breakfast burrito.
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By "comply", I mean like getting them to revert the map rename. Kicking them out and blocking them isn't really getting them to "comply"
By contrast, if the US government wanted Google to do something, they could storm their headquarters and get the government tech people to go in the servers and change it.
if the US government wanted Google to do something, they could storm their headquarters and get the government tech people to go in the servers and change it.
Bwahahahahahahainhalehahahahahahaa
Thanks, I needed that. Whatever movies you're watching are terrible.
Forcing your way into Google to have "government techs" change something is NCIS level ridiculous. Conceivably they might get a court order to "force" Google to change. Funnily enough, the US and Mexico have the exact same levers to make a company do what they want. The US has more power to push those levers though.
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So why did google change it in Canada, then?
Because Google is actuvely pushing US government agenda into Canada. It should be considered an extension of the US government as far as other countries are concerned, but it's a corporation so nobody cares. Google WILL assist in taking Canada the best they can, so I guess Canada can just enjoy it or whatever instead of doing something about it.
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Come on, guys. You have drug cartels. Surely they have a guy named Luigi. Doesn't Trump want to declare war on Mexico or some insane shit like that?
You have drug cartels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking_allegations
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Why bother with this? If you want to make a point, pass regulation in Mexico to call E.E.U.U. (US in Mexico) be called Northern Mexico. Then Google is forced to comply on that territory like they claim they do for disputed sections when maps are viewed from that region. It would make for some funny reactions from people visiting Cancun or Puerto Vallarta.
Google is one of many propaganda arms of the US govt. I highly doubt they'd comply with that as it doesn't fit in with their political agenda.
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The suit should be by an American cartography company over the proper US Board on Geographic Names's official process not being followed for the name change.
I'm actually submitting a name change to the board. But since the USGS added a bit on the process saying that resetablisglhing historical names isn't a reason for a name change, I'm going to recommend it be changed to "The Gulf," since it meets all criteria for a name change - most importantly that it be a name in common usage by locals. Lots of people refer to it as "The Gulf," while "Gulf of America" isn't in common usage.
The most we can do outside of lawsuits is at least try to take the "America" part away.
I’m going to recommend it be changed to “The Gulf,” since it meets all criteria for a name change - most importantly that it be a name in common usage by locals.
So now when I refer to "The Gulf States", I'm typically referring to Alabama and Florida and Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
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The word "America" is not reserved for the USA alone and belongs to the entire Americas: North America, Central America, South America. As such if they want to rename the Gulf of Mexico then it should be the Gulf of North America of which both the USA and Mexico are a part of and share borders around that body of water.
Furthermore the word "America" isn't an English word but the German bastardization of an Italian word. Specifically the word "America" was coined by Martin Waldseemüller a German cartographer who named the Americas after Italian explorer Amerigo Vespucci who explored the new continents for Spain and Portugal.
Amerigo Vespucci - History Cartoon ~ Innovative History ~ YouTube.
So if this is the big orange blow-fish's attempt to dis on Mexico then it's pretty petty much like everything he does to massage his massive ego.
The US keeps it to flex on all the other American countries. It's a display of dominance.
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Google is one of many propaganda arms of the US govt. I highly doubt they'd comply with that as it doesn't fit in with their political agenda.
At that point they would be like twitter in Brazil when they didn't comply with fines and were blocked at the country level: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y06vzk3yjo
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The suit should be by an American cartography company over the proper US Board on Geographic Names's official process not being followed for the name change.
I'm actually submitting a name change to the board. But since the USGS added a bit on the process saying that resetablisglhing historical names isn't a reason for a name change, I'm going to recommend it be changed to "The Gulf," since it meets all criteria for a name change - most importantly that it be a name in common usage by locals. Lots of people refer to it as "The Gulf," while "Gulf of America" isn't in common usage.
The most we can do outside of lawsuits is at least try to take the "America" part away.
the proper US Board on Geographic Names’s official process not being followed for the name change.
This is the theme of this administration. Doing whatever they want with no regard for process. This gulf of "America" nonsense truly feels like the actions of a believed king or emperor. A frivolous decree that doesn't change anything, doesn't materially affect anything, just an opportunity to exercise their believed power.
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It looks like they’re giving the lawyers time to find legal arguments to file.
Though they could jusr ban Google from their country.
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You have drug cartels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_drug_trafficking_allegations
Everyone has drug cartels. The US doesn't even make thr top 20 tho.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/20-countries-highest-number-drug-220037331.html
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I fucking love pancakes, hockey, beer, and poutine, where do I sign up?
You also have to be able to curse well, and hate shoveling snow.
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The new name shows only for USA. In Mexico it’s unchanged, or shown with both names.
Our president is dumb and just wants to look like she’s fighting back.
It’s showing up worldwide. Its why Mexico is threatening to sue.
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Senkaku Islands are the center of a dispute between Japan and China, both claim them, both have names for them. Wikipedia goes more in depth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senkaku_Islands
On google maps we get...
So it's not like they can't give stuff multiple names.
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What's dumb about this is that in their jurisdiction (Mexico) it is actually the "Gulf of Mexico" in Google Maps, they don't get the "Gulf of America" name. In the US it's labelled as "Gulf of America" without mentioning "Gulf of Mexico" which you could argue Google has to do because it (theoretically) follows national laws everywhere it operates.
That's why Korean users don't see the Sea of Japan to their east, they see the East Sea. That's why in some locations the Persian Gulf is referred to as the Arabian Gulf instead. It's also why inside India the borders you see for Kashmir don't match the borders you see for Kashmir if you're in Pakistan. The rest of the world sees a third version of that area with areas marked as disputed.
What's really annoying is that every other country in the world is exposed to this "Gulf of America" silliness, even countries where people don't speak English. I can understand (just barely) having "(Gulf of America)" under "Gulf of Mexico" in English-speaking countries because if someone is hearing news from a US source and they refer to the Gulf of America, it might be useful to know what they're talking about. It's in the news now, but in 3 years say you're a high-school kid trying to do a geography report and can't find the feature on the map, that could be annoying.
But, this parenthesis rule apparently even extends to Germany, where it's "Golf von Mexiko (Golf von Amerika)". There's no reason to include a name that doesn't exist in your language on your version of the maps app. If I, as an English-maps user look at Germany, I don't get Munich (Munchen). I don't get Florence (Firenze), I don't get India (Bhārat). There's a long-standing tradition that maps show things in the name that's local to the map user. Sometimes, over time, a name gets changed to be closer to the way it's said in the local language, so Peking became Beijing.
Also, google addressed this in a blog post from 2008, almost literally describing this situation:
"How Google determines the names for bodies of water in Google Earth ... if a ruler announced that henceforth the Pacific Ocean would be named after her mother, we would not add that placemark unless and until the name came into common usage"
Other than the ruler not being female, the body of water being a different one, and "America" not being Donald Trump's mother, this is the exact situation.
