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Amazon’s killing a feature that let you download and backup Kindle books

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  • K [email protected]

    So it just obsoletes them for the model users that buy from Amazon and put it on their Amazon device without conversion in between. Even though they should be Amazons favourites.

    lol, lmao even.

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    The specific devices impacted by this are pretty old (I think only the first and second gen ones? So at latest 2009), so honestly I doubt they're very worried about it.

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      The optimist in me says they're doing this to avoid piracy.

      The pessimist in me says they're doing this so they can purge books because of the Trump administration.

      Either way, I can't say I'm a fan.

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      • G [email protected]

        Well there's a key difference, Kobo allows epub. I don't think they could legally remove it from devices already on the market?

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        Kobo allows epub

        Kindle doesn't? Mines 2 years old but my co worker got one for Xmas and theirs loads the epub I sent them no problem at all

        Honestly the Kobo is better as a physical device imo but the Kindle is perfectly simple to commit crimes on if you have Calibre

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          While I don't disagree, I still think using a Kindle device is stupid.

          No reason that they can't just go 'oh we didn't sell those books, we should clean up all that unauthorized content' at some point in the future.

          Buy something that's not made by Amazon, even if it costs a bit more or has worse features, because well, they're not to be trusted.

          (Or custom non-connected firmware if that's a thing for Kindles. Never really looked so no idea if that's a thing.)

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          No reason that they can't just go 'oh we didn't sell those books, we should clean up all that unauthorized content' at some point in the future.

          On our personal devices? That's illegal where I am and I doubt they even have the capability to do that currently, anyway

          Or custom non-connected firmware

          Just don't connect to the Internet and use Calibre to manage your library, there's no need for custom firmware

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            I sure am glad I got a Kobo for myself for Xmas and ripped all my books to it. Guess I'll be recycling my Kindle for good.

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              I'm quite glad that I never bought fully into Kindle/Nook/Kobo and instead went with an eInk Android tablet.

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                I told people years ago. You don't own those books.

                I own my books.... They are made out of this thing called paper and line the wall of my office. All the volumes I value I have of copy of for myself and future generations of my family

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                  I'm quite glad that I never bought fully into Kindle/Nook/Kobo and instead went with an eInk Android tablet.

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                  Which model did you end up with? Do you like it?

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                    It's been a while since I tried it but from memory I had managed to extract the device keys from my kindle for DeDRM and then it wouldn't decrypt the files with them

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                    The guide the other user commented looks pretty good, better than the one i followed. lol
                    If you run into issues let us know.

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                      I sure am glad I got a Kobo for myself for Xmas and ripped all my books to it. Guess I'll be recycling my Kindle for good.

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                      If your model accepts a custom OS, some of them make decent e-ink displays for weather, family photos, etc.

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                        Which model did you end up with? Do you like it?

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                        I went with a Box Note Air 3C, and it's great. I hear the new model is basically the same but faster.

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                          If your model accepts a custom OS, some of them make decent e-ink displays for weather, family photos, etc.

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                          Yeah I've actually thought about doing that and making it an office desk calendar or something. Thanks for reminding me!

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                            Its possible to buy DRM free ebooks from itch.io and it is where I get everything that I can.

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                              The only surprising thing about this is that the functionality existed in the first place.

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                              I mean, I agree with this. I have a kindle and had no idea you could directly connect it to download books. Guess I learned my new thing for the day.

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                                I sure am glad I got a Kobo for myself for Xmas and ripped all my books to it. Guess I'll be recycling my Kindle for good.

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                                I just got a Kobo color (don't recommend the color feature; no book is ever going to use it except the red-letter Bible and House of Leaves) and gifted the old Kindle to a friend. I e-reader is an awesome gift actually because for a lot of people it's something they would never evenly in years take a chance on, but that they would love it if they tried.

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                                  Its possible to buy DRM free ebooks from itch.io and it is where I get everything that I can.

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                                  Adding on to this that Barnes and Noble sells DRMed ePUB files that are relatively easy to strip DRM from using Calibre.

                                  So if you can't find a book anywhere else, at least they don't use a proprietary format and still allow you to download your books using their PC software.

                                  I was a semi-early adopter in the ebook space and I have refused to get onboard with the kindle ecosystem from the start. There's no reason for their proprietary format other than complete control over things they pretend to sell you. Amazon is also the Walmart of books and uses their position to browbeat publishers and authors into taking smaller cuts of sales.

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                                    I'm quite glad that I never bought fully into Kindle/Nook/Kobo and instead went with an eInk Android tablet.

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                                    Kobo and Nook ebooks are still ePUB and easy enough to free from their DRM.

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                                      I'm quite glad that I never bought fully into Kindle/Nook/Kobo and instead went with an eInk Android tablet.

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                                      im glad i didnt even try eink, i just went to best buy tried the cheapest tablets and the s9 fe works perfectly for me, wanted to like the p12 lenovo but the brightness was terrible on it, couldn't see shit. I think id be dissapointed in my reading experience if eink is so much nicer, i like having options to watch media and do other stuff

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                                        Check out boox for a properly open(-ish) platform, it's android based.

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                                        Apparently Boox has been a stomping all over the GPL licensing terms. You can find a lot of info on it, but here is a non-reddit link:
                                        https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277431

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                                          This is why you never connect your kindle to the internet. Calibre forever

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