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Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.

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  • flyingsquid@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

    China calls Taiwan "Chinese Taipei." Should Google Maps show "Taiwan (Chinese Taipei)" on maps? Because I don't see how that would be China's call any more than the name of the Gulf would be Trump's call.

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    Is there Google maps in China? If there is, I'd be surprised if it didn't say that. That is claiming ownership. Countries can't own a gulf beyond the domestic waters convention. But, I don't know, that's a good question because a regular Chinese person would just be confused. It wouldn't effect any policy change

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      Is there Google maps in China? If there is, I'd be surprised if it didn't say that. That is claiming ownership. Countries can't own a gulf beyond the domestic waters convention. But, I don't know, that's a good question because a regular Chinese person would just be confused. It wouldn't effect any policy change

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      I did not say in China. Google Maps says "Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)" in most of the world. It sure is here in Britain.

      Also, calling the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America is a clear claim of ownership.

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        just added maps.google.com to pihole blacklist

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        I wish i could add childishness to my pihole blacklist.

        Seriously, think about what you are angry about here. Is this what matters to you?

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          Well, the continent was named America, not the US continent. So the name Gulf of America just sounds right.

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          • flyingsquid@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

            I did not say in China. Google Maps says "Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)" in most of the world. It sure is here in Britain.

            Also, calling the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America is a clear claim of ownership.

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            Mexico didn't own it before any more than the US owns it now. I don't like the nationalistic intentions, but I can rationalize it to myself that Mexico is also part of [North] America

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              Mexico didn't own it before any more than the US owns it now. I don't like the nationalistic intentions, but I can rationalize it to myself that Mexico is also part of [North] America

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              No shit they didn't. And they never have. Because it was called the Gulf of Mexico before Mexico as a nation existed. It was called that because it was named after the Valley of Mexico, which was part of New Spain.. Mexico as a country didn't exist until centuries later.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_Mexico

              Maybe actually read the history of this before deciding this is about anyone other than Trump claiming ownership of that gulf.

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                Well, the continent was named America, not the US continent. So the name Gulf of America just sounds right.

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                I thought it was called North America?

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                  My point is the names are different in different places. At some point, people named things from their perspective irregardless of what others, including those living adjacent to the thing cal it

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                  No one can own the Gulf anyway. Trump just wanted to stir shit up and people like you getting all bent out of shape are just playing into it. It's just a name

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                  • flyingsquid@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                    No shit they didn't. And they never have. Because it was called the Gulf of Mexico before Mexico as a nation existed. It was called that because it was named after the Valley of Mexico, which was part of New Spain.. Mexico as a country didn't exist until centuries later.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_Mexico

                    Maybe actually read the history of this before deciding this is about anyone other than Trump claiming ownership of that gulf.

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                    No one can own the Gulf anyway. Trump just wanted to stir shit up and people like you getting all bent out of shape are just playing into it. It's just a name

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                      Oh, the cartel leader criminal is throwing a fit. Lmao

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                        No one can own the Gulf anyway. Trump just wanted to stir shit up and people like you getting all bent out of shape are just playing into it. It's just a name

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                        "Mount McKinley" is "just a name" for what is supposed to be called Denali. Ask an indigenous person if they think changing the name of a sacred mountain to the name of a man responsible for one of them many genocides of their people is "just a name."

                        Then ask virtually any black person if they don't care about Trump and Republicans restoring Confederate generals' names to military bases. Find out if they think it's "just a name."

                        Names have power and I'm amazed you don't realize that.

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                          Republicans are so good at baiting liberals into useless bullshit arguments, while they plunder stuff that actually matters.

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                          • flyingsquid@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                            DuckDuckGo is just Bing. And Microsoft is not any better in terms of kissing Trump's ass.

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                            Not quite.

                            DuckDuckGo's results are a compilation of "over 400" sources according to itself, including Bing, Yahoo! Search BOSS, Wolfram Alpha , Yandex, and its own web crawler (the DuckDuckBot); but none from Google. It also uses data from  sites such as wikipedia, to populate knowledge panel boxes to the right of the search results.

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                              "Mount McKinley" is "just a name" for what is supposed to be called Denali. Ask an indigenous person if they think changing the name of a sacred mountain to the name of a man responsible for one of them many genocides of their people is "just a name."

                              Then ask virtually any black person if they don't care about Trump and Republicans restoring Confederate generals' names to military bases. Find out if they think it's "just a name."

                              Names have power and I'm amazed you don't realize that.

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                              I'm telling you this is what he wants: people to get all worked up and virtue signaling for MAGA

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                                Not quite.

                                DuckDuckGo's results are a compilation of "over 400" sources according to itself, including Bing, Yahoo! Search BOSS, Wolfram Alpha , Yandex, and its own web crawler (the DuckDuckBot); but none from Google. It also uses data from  sites such as wikipedia, to populate knowledge panel boxes to the right of the search results.

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                                Its main partnership is with Bing.

                                And this is why it's a problem: https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/17/brave_duckduckgo/

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                                  I'm telling you this is what he wants: people to get all worked up and virtue signaling for MAGA

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                                  Ignoring my entire post is a choice, I'll give you that.

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                                    It's a US company following US policy as it's a contract holder for the US Government they're compelled to follow US policy. Whether anyone likes it or not, at least for right now, US policy is that the Gulf of Mexico for all intents and purposes is the Gulf of America.

                                    President Sheinbaum can sue Google all she wants, but there's no court that's going to find that a US company complying with US policy is breaking the law.

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                                    So you are gonna have to provide a source explaining how the president using an executive order to rename international water is "policy" that Google must follow.

                                    They you'll have to explain why I, as a Canadian, have to see this stupid renaming in parentheses.

                                    If the US truely doesn't have a system beyond "once the president orders it, it's renamed." That's their problem but I don't give a fuck what they call things and I don't know why google thinks I should.

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                                      Its main partnership is with Bing.

                                      And this is why it's a problem: https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/17/brave_duckduckgo/

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                                      It’s still preferable to vanilla bing and google because the privacy is stronger and it produces useful results. There is no perfect search engine, right now we have to compromise.

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                                        have we (the human race) ever been to this point before? where corporations are big enough to absorb whole countries and there's pretty much nobody who'll stand up to them?

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                                        The East India Company is the first example that comes to mind. I'm sure others.

                                        I really don't think we are living through unprecedented times, unfortunately. People have sucked for as long as we've existed.

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                                        • flyingsquid@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                          I want to know how many of the people here defending Google's decision would be okay with Google labeling Taiwan as "Taiwan (Chinese Taipei)" for people in Taiwan and also the rest of the world.

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                                          Who should care about petty stuff .
                                          Wether it's the orange clown trying to rename the Gulf of Mexico to the little unwashed cokehead making a point of calling Kiev Kiyv.
                                          I'm surprised Google, that is100% a US regime tool didn't rename that Chinese province already.

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