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  • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

    My company's buyout has been completed, and their IT team is in the final stages of gutting our old systems and moving us on to all their infra.

    Sadly, this means all my Linux and FOSS implementations I've worked on for the last year are getting shutdown and ripped out this week. (They're all 100% Microsoft and proprietary junk at the new company)

    I know it's dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

    That's the nature of a corpo takeover though. Just wanted to let off some steam to some folks here who I know would understand.

    FOSS forever! ✊

    treadful@lemmy.zipT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #55

    I know it’s dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

    Sadly, something we all have to get used to. Everything we do is ephemeral and the next guy will likely have better/different ideas on how to do things.

    Basically everything I've ever built has been torn down or somehow bastardized eventually.

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    • J [email protected]

      My job title is "Linux System Administrator". I'd quit if they tried to make me drop Linux.

      lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL This user is from outside of this forum
      lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #56

      I tried to push back, but they are a much larger company and they made it clear that I would be playing by their rules, not mine.

      I was thinking of quitting immediately, but at least in my region of the country, the IT market is really rough right now, so I can't afford to be out of work for months.

      I won't last long here though. They are half owned by a private equity firm, so they run everything based on the bottom line. Their IT team is understaffed, underpaid, and they are always looking for excuses to lay folks off or fire them. Their turnover rate is pretty high, burnout is rife.

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        I think I'm a cloud engineer, so I can't use the same reasoning as you; but when I started at my company, I was given the option of either a Linux laptop with root or a Mac laptop. Obviously I selected Linux, but about a year later they started retiring all Linux laptops. The reason for this, I was told, is because the IT department didn't know how to manage Linux laptops but they were familiar with Jamf. They did let us keep root on them, though.

        I still miss using that laptop for work. The good news is, since they never implemented mandatory RTO policies, the company moved to a much smaller office. In doing so, they needed to reduce inventory, so they gave away the old laptops (sans drives) to their employees. I now own the same laptop (or a very similar one)!

        lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #57

        My work laptop has Debian on it with the Plasma DE, I love it so much. Everything is snappy and clean, set up and tuned perfectly to my preferences.

        It's getting wiped in a few days. I requested to keep it as a personal device if I wiped it, they denied that request. I even offered to buy it back from the company, but still no.

        At least I get to keep it instead of using their bulky, crappy HPs, but replacing my sleek Debian system with Windows 11 feels so wrong.

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        • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

          Looking actively. I haven't lost my job (yet) I cut my teeth in IT on supporting Microsoft products, so I still have relevant skills for the new corpo's IT, but it already stinks of the big corporate style.

          Super inefficient processes, stuck in their ways, everything has to get bumped around to 3-4 different departments before getting approved, etc.

          And cLoWd EvErYtHiNg! So we are hardcore vendor locked with Microsoft, there isn't a chance of me getting them to try using anything FOSS as an alternative.

          At least my home lab is 100% Linux and FOSS, same with all my personal computers. I'm having even more fun than usual going home after work and playing with my tech.

          And one small upside is they are giving me all the old computers from my current company, so I have a huge pile of towers that I can referb and sell, or use for more home lab testing.

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          #58

          I feel you so much on this. Bet your work was really cool.

          What cool FOSS things would you do first if this take-over company allowed you to?

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          • S [email protected]

            It's natural to feel sad seeing your work undone. Start searching for a new gig and do the best you can to not have an emotional response to the stuff you dislike; that'll only make you exhausted and burned out.

            I'm sorry your job got worse. Try to find where you can be happy again.

            lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #59

            Thank you 🤜🤛

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            • captechomar@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

              That's not dumb.
              It's devastating.
              I'm not a linux user due to multiple of reasons and I'm sad about it.
              I'd be very sad if I was able to make it to the other side and then get taken back

              lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #60

              Thank you 👊

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              • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                it sucks that they teach us our code will live forever, so watch out for introducing bugs....

                then the companies go under, designs change and you waste your life leaving behind nothing.

                lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL This user is from outside of this forum
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                #61

                Yeah, it's rough. I am trying to look on the bright side, that I learned a lot that will help my career going forward, and what I did implement worked very well and helped make a few people's lives easier.

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                • V [email protected]

                  I get it. I've just been through a merger and the new head software delivery has plans on rewriting everything in their tech stack. He is in for an absolute fucking ride when he realises that such a rewrite will not take a year but 5 to 10 and will incapacitate our department for the entire time. In a rapidly evolving market. It is 3 decades of continuous and rapid feature expansions he's trying to unroll.

                  It's not FOSS though, so I'm not as invested in it, I'm just here to see him either fail utterly or get kicked due to his cognitive dissonance that'll cost our department in the tens or hundreds of millions.

                  lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Oof, that's rough. My spouse is a software engineer and has been through a similar thing recently.

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                  • N [email protected]

                    Hoard a copy of your work. Even if your new overlords are gutting and replacing it, ot might be useful elsewhere one day.

                    Source: Similar situation once upon a time. I am currently using on a daily basis what was once replaced in a different company.

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                    #63

                    Already backed up securely and anonymously 🙂

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                    • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                      I tried to push back, but they are a much larger company and they made it clear that I would be playing by their rules, not mine.

                      I was thinking of quitting immediately, but at least in my region of the country, the IT market is really rough right now, so I can't afford to be out of work for months.

                      I won't last long here though. They are half owned by a private equity firm, so they run everything based on the bottom line. Their IT team is understaffed, underpaid, and they are always looking for excuses to lay folks off or fire them. Their turnover rate is pretty high, burnout is rife.

                      vanderbilt@lemmy.worldV This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Start job hunting now. By the sound of it they are one of those PE firms that zombie walk every acquisition into mediocrity.

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                      • brandon@lemmy.mlB [email protected]

                        Please be careful when copying anything that could be considered your employer's intellectual property off of that employer's systems. And definitely be even more careful about using one employer's IP for a new employer (neither company would be pleased to discover this).

                        lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        I am careful, but not concerned. The new company's IT doesn't give a damn about anything that I set up or implemented. Their reactions when I was describing my work and job role before the buyout was essentially, "Aww, the cute little sysadmin was making scripts and using Linux, isn't that sweet."

                        As far as they're concerned, all the old hardware and software are e-waste and are being scrapped. They are ripping out everything, literally. From our phone system, to our physical devices, to our firewalls, network switches, Active Directory, and file server.

                        They are replacing every single part of our infrastructure. Everything I built is useless in their eyes.

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                        • R [email protected]

                          I always feel like the features I’ve worked on become my coworkers or like pets. When a specific feature breaks often, I’ll think “damnit Frank! One of these days I’m going to patch that edge case once and for all!”

                          Then I patch Frank and he quiets down so I can focus on the next thing leadership wants.

                          You get to know these things and you put care into designing them (if you didn’t put care into them, you’d likely be a hack of an IT person). It’s always hard to see them go.

                          Sorry for your loss.

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                          Thank you 🫶

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                          • sexualpolytope@lemmy.sdf.orgS [email protected]

                            Better start looking for a new job. That company might not be in business for too long, judging from the choices that they're making. Especially, if they work in the IT space.

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                            #67

                            For sure, already reaching out to recruiters and applying to some job postings.

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                            • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                              My company's buyout has been completed, and their IT team is in the final stages of gutting our old systems and moving us on to all their infra.

                              Sadly, this means all my Linux and FOSS implementations I've worked on for the last year are getting shutdown and ripped out this week. (They're all 100% Microsoft and proprietary junk at the new company)

                              I know it's dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

                              That's the nature of a corpo takeover though. Just wanted to let off some steam to some folks here who I know would understand.

                              FOSS forever! ✊

                              C This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #68

                              Shutdown: noun

                              Shut down: verb

                              You can't straddle the lane.

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                              • lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

                                My company's buyout has been completed, and their IT team is in the final stages of gutting our old systems and moving us on to all their infra.

                                Sadly, this means all my Linux and FOSS implementations I've worked on for the last year are getting shutdown and ripped out this week. (They're all 100% Microsoft and proprietary junk at the new company)

                                I know it's dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

                                That's the nature of a corpo takeover though. Just wanted to let off some steam to some folks here who I know would understand.

                                FOSS forever! ✊

                                J This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #69

                                I don't think feeling sad in this situation is dumb at all

                                I'm with you in your pain Linux brother/sister... I'll drink a pint in your name tonight

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                                  I think I'm a cloud engineer, so I can't use the same reasoning as you; but when I started at my company, I was given the option of either a Linux laptop with root or a Mac laptop. Obviously I selected Linux, but about a year later they started retiring all Linux laptops. The reason for this, I was told, is because the IT department didn't know how to manage Linux laptops but they were familiar with Jamf. They did let us keep root on them, though.

                                  I still miss using that laptop for work. The good news is, since they never implemented mandatory RTO policies, the company moved to a much smaller office. In doing so, they needed to reduce inventory, so they gave away the old laptops (sans drives) to their employees. I now own the same laptop (or a very similar one)!

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                                  In doing so, they needed to reduce inventory, so they gave away the old laptops (sans drives) to their employees. I now own the same laptop (or a very similar one)!

                                  Yeah, IT fleet upgrades are a great way to snag some decent hardware for dirt cheap. My Plex server is running on an old HP EliteDesk that came from a cubicle. The hardware itself is often practically new, because corporate drones rarely do anything intensive enough to actually push the hardware. Just give it a quick spray with some canned air, and pop a new drive in.

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                                  • jumuta@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                                    that's actually really sad, IT of all people don't care about FOSS?

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                                    #71

                                    Sadly, that's been my experience for years in IT, at least where I live in the US.

                                    I rarely encounter an IT person who knows what Linux is beyond "a hacker OS" or some arcane system from the 80's that's still running deep in a basement somewhere.

                                    FOSS = janky freeware in their minds. They've usually never even heard of XCP-ng, OpenShift, TrueNAS, Bitwarden, PFSense, or any of the other professionally supported and enterprise-grade open source technologies.

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                                    • friendlyemp@mastodon.socialF [email protected]

                                      @Lettuceeatlettuce okay, glad you still have a job at least. Sick that they're giving you those towers! It'd be a field day for me, I hope you enjoy it!

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                                      #72

                                      For sure! 🫶

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                                      • J [email protected]

                                        I don't think feeling sad in this situation is dumb at all

                                        I'm with you in your pain Linux brother/sister... I'll drink a pint in your name tonight

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                                        Thank you, I might join in spirit heh 👊

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                                        • C [email protected]

                                          Shutdown: noun

                                          Shut down: verb

                                          You can't straddle the lane.

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                                          #74

                                          Harsh but fair, edited lol.

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