It Was Fun While It Lasted: Apple Maps to Start Showing Ads.
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Not in my experience. Apple products and services are driven by the yay or nay of the CEO. The employees often push back on things as well if they have enough clout.
If we look at other companies that have been in Apple's position, this seems to be a temporary state of affairs even if it lasts for a while. If the expectation is for profit to grow year over year (it is), as growth of market share stalls because you've already expanded as much as you could, you'd get pressed to find profits by exploiting existing revenue streams. That's the point when employee opposition stops working. Think of the recent events when the Google Search VP opposed the Ad VP's requests to make search worse in order to improve ads revenue. The Ad VP got appointed to lead search and the previous search VP got moved to a dark corner somewhere. Once you run out of profit growth in the existing revenue streams, they'd ask you to find profit growth by reducing labor cost. We also saw that happening in various companies over the last little while.
If Apple was a private corporation owned by some people who aren't looking for ever increasing profits, I'd believe they might not follow this pattern. But they aren't.
That's just my guess and the reasons behind it. Could turn out that you're right and Apple is an exception to the rule. I mean, I hope it does but I'm not optimistic.
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Well, this thing isn’t going to just enshitify itself, now is it.
There was a time when Apple was able to infuse some level of class into its products relative to competitors. I suppose they were able to do that because their growth was driven by exciting products. With their now listless and moribund product strategy, they have to cash in the equity they built up in customer experience to fund shareholder value.
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Apple actually integrates several “anti tracking” technologies into their maps, so it IS an improvement in theory.
They still collect data albeit less from Google Maps. But Organic Maps doesn’t collect any data.
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Looks like we are both skeptical about those technologies. "All you have to do is turn off locations... on a maps app... that's privacy!"
Well apparently they ask for directions to your destination and 5 random others so that it’s not trackable server side.
I haven’t investigated myself and that’s not entirely fool proof, but it’s leagues better than Google for privacy.
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They still collect data albeit less from Google Maps. But Organic Maps doesn’t collect any data.
I’m an avid user of OSM and OsmAnd, I’m with you there
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Well apparently they ask for directions to your destination and 5 random others so that it’s not trackable server side.
I haven’t investigated myself and that’s not entirely fool proof, but it’s leagues better than Google for privacy.
It is. That's actually really cool.
But if they do start including ads, why would advertisers use a less effective and accurate platform than Google Maps?
Either they change or their ad placements are cheaper.
If they aren't maximizing profits then why put ads at all? It's not like they are losing profits.
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It is. That's actually really cool.
But if they do start including ads, why would advertisers use a less effective and accurate platform than Google Maps?
Either they change or their ad placements are cheaper.
If they aren't maximizing profits then why put ads at all? It's not like they are losing profits.
Why put ads on a new venue that may reach users that don’t use Google maps?
Even if that ad is less effective, it’s still going to have some effectiveness
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Apple... Monetisation... Aren't they already making like a billion per day?
Greedy fuckers.
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So I don’t actually mind this.
And odds are good you won’t notice them.
They’ll just be carefully highlighted locations when you’re looking at a larger map, so the random buildings that get labeled in the more zoomed out views are chosen carefully.
It gets better, when you search for “restaurants near me” the order won’t be organic but “pay to win”
So “restaurant chain #5” will be at the top even if you hate their food.
Not really awful as far as advertising goes.
Downvoted for having an opinion. Rip in peace
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Downvoted for having an opinion. Rip in peace
Yeah people like to downvote things that they don’t agree with even if it’s a decent point.
Oh well, at least I don’t base my self-worth on internet points.
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So I don’t actually mind this.
And odds are good you won’t notice them.
They’ll just be carefully highlighted locations when you’re looking at a larger map, so the random buildings that get labeled in the more zoomed out views are chosen carefully.
It gets better, when you search for “restaurants near me” the order won’t be organic but “pay to win”
So “restaurant chain #5” will be at the top even if you hate their food.
Not really awful as far as advertising goes.
When has a company ever shown itself to show restraint once it heads down the monetization train? And isn't Apple's premium price point that it isn't ad infested like Android or Microsoft?
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I love it though someojesomeone can easily make out where I live and work
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When has a company ever shown itself to show restraint once it heads down the monetization train? And isn't Apple's premium price point that it isn't ad infested like Android or Microsoft?
You’re not wrong, but I’d really like to pretend that you are.
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Thank god it doesn’t… fuck that. Most times it’s bs anyway.
Nah disagree, I often check google maps just for reviews if I want to find it try a new restaurant. But I can imagine how difficult that would to implement in oss and most importantly, moderating it would be near impossible.
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Well, this thing isn’t going to just enshitify itself, now is it.
There was a time when Apple was able to infuse some level of class into its products relative to competitors. I suppose they were able to do that because their growth was driven by exciting products. With their now listless and moribund product strategy, they have to cash in the equity they built up in customer experience to fund shareholder value.
Moribund (adjective)
Meaning: Dying or declining.
TIL a new word.
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Yeah people like to downvote things that they don’t agree with even if it’s a decent point.
Oh well, at least I don’t base my self-worth on internet points.
I’m not sure you’re being downvoted for people not agreeing, per se.
I think you’re being downvoted for coming across as a little misguided on your theory.
And odds are good you won’t notice them
Doesn’t this defeat the purpose of advertisers advertising if people ain’t going to notice them.
Disclaimer: I use an iPhone and Apple Maps.
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You’re not wrong, but I’d really like to pretend that you are.
I might have more faith in them if they weren't a publicly traded company always having the expectation of exponential growth.
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I might have more faith in them if they weren't a publicly traded company always having the expectation of exponential growth.
That is EXACTLY the issue.
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That is EXACTLY the issue.
Yeah they won at capitalism. But it's so crazy that because of stock price expectations even they won't ever come to the finish line. It's never good enough no matter how much they make. The ceiling just keeps going up and up and up.
