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Kindle Is Making It Harder to Switch to Rival eReader Brands.

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  • jzzvid@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJ [email protected]

    I love how hackable Kobos are. I put KOReader on mine and it's honestly just the best experience I could ask for.

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    Absolutely the reason I bought mine too. While we are probably a small niche, looking for this functionality was how I found Kobo in the first place.

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    • viking@infosec.pubV [email protected]

      I have a first generation kindle that I bought 16 years ago. They used to be awesome, and Amazon shaped the way ecommerce worked. The lesson here is not to be fully dependent on one supplier, not to boycott everything just because it's big.

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      Yeah, they were great back then. I have the first generation Kindle Paperwhite (12-ish years), though at this point I only use it to read fanfics lol

      AO3 let's you download entire fics directly in the EPUB & AZW3 format, doubt they're ever gonna change that 😁

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        There is a whole community of people out there who will pretty much refuse to buy brand new electronics. And thats for very obvious and valid reasons.

        Kindles can be found for dirt cheap if not free 2nd hand. And so many users have a kindle for this reason. Myself included. Id never throw out or discard an electronic device that continues to work. For the same obvious reasons as why i dont buy new ones.

        And so this information is super relevant and important to users like me. Regardless of how much people like you might be convinced that "we had it coming" or whatever.

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        Sure, it's the same problem with most of electronics, it's the console business model, or ink printer, where the device itself is "too" cheap and companies make money on content. Unfortunately it comes with shackles. I'm all for breaking the shackles but unfortunately has to be aware of what they are getting into, not just the trouble but also potentially supporting the company promoting DRMs and more.

        I work in XR and Meta/Facebook is the embodiment of that problem. The Quest is too cheap compared to alternatives like Lynx (standalone designing in France, unfortunately still running on Android but at least rootable) or even the "old" now Valve Index, which in addition to its price also requires a gaming desktop.

        So... it's a money making machine for corporations. Hopefully recycling is done in a way that provide 0 support for the corporations locking down its device, promoting its marketplace BUT also, sadly less realistic, doesn't also prevent companies who try to sell genuine alternative that do NOT promote such business model from existing.

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          Thing is, the pinenote is €610, and the kindle paperwhite is £160, cheaper on discount.

          I get your point and there’s a reason why the kindle is as cheap as it is, but I can understand why someone would see those prices and go for the kindle.

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          there’s a reason why the kindle is as cheap as it is,

          Indeed, cf https://lemmy.world/comment/15163037 unfortunately too cheap usually comes at a non financial cost.

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            Sure, it's the same problem with most of electronics, it's the console business model, or ink printer, where the device itself is "too" cheap and companies make money on content. Unfortunately it comes with shackles. I'm all for breaking the shackles but unfortunately has to be aware of what they are getting into, not just the trouble but also potentially supporting the company promoting DRMs and more.

            I work in XR and Meta/Facebook is the embodiment of that problem. The Quest is too cheap compared to alternatives like Lynx (standalone designing in France, unfortunately still running on Android but at least rootable) or even the "old" now Valve Index, which in addition to its price also requires a gaming desktop.

            So... it's a money making machine for corporations. Hopefully recycling is done in a way that provide 0 support for the corporations locking down its device, promoting its marketplace BUT also, sadly less realistic, doesn't also prevent companies who try to sell genuine alternative that do NOT promote such business model from existing.

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            TL;DR: get a 2nd hand reMarkable, PineNote, Bookeen, etc…

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              What can I do with a jailbroken kindle that makes it worth doing instead of just using calibre?

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              Better reader, PDFs with reflow.

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                On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                I am sorry, what?

                Turn on PC or phone. Download ebook from torrent site. Enjoy.

                It's not difficult to switch?

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                  Or go for the Kobo, which is similarly priced as the Kindle. The Kobo Clara Colour is £150

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                  I've had three ereaders, all three were kobo.Yet I wouldn't recommend them anymore. There's a mandatory online activation now. There are ways to bypass it but it's not great.

                  Many models are unstable with KoReader so it's not even an alternative anymore.

                  The day I replace my eReader is going to be a hard day.

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                    It eludes me how people pay to 'buy' something that they cannot download in the first place. If I don't have it as a file on my computer, I don't own it. You wouldn't pay to 'buy' a physical item if that meant only being able to look at it at the store, without the ability to take it home and do whatever you want with it.

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                    Just wait until they can figure out how to do this to physical items. How? Idfk bro what am I a rocket appliance?

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                      Better reader, PDFs with reflow.

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                      How would the reading experience improve for regular ebooks?

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                        Just wait until they can figure out how to do this to physical items. How? Idfk bro what am I a rocket appliance?

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                          What can I do with a jailbroken kindle that makes it worth doing instead of just using calibre?

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                          I switched from the default reader to koreader, and now I have dark mode (mine is probably about 8 years old and did not originally have this feature). Koreader has so many features and qol improvements compared to the default Kindle experience.

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                            TL;DR: get a 2nd hand reMarkable, PineNote, Bookeen, etc…

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                            unfortunately though, due to the same issues there isn't a very large second hand market of those either. Like the cheapest remarkable second hand I could find was still 300$ and the cheapest pine note was 270$ for preowns.

                            when you compare it to the kindle which has preowns starting at 40$ it's a hard buy

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                              I am sorry, what?

                              Turn on PC or phone. Download ebook from torrent site. Enjoy.

                              It's not difficult to switch?

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                              Why don’t you use library genesis or Anna‘s archive?

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                                It eludes me how people pay to 'buy' something that they cannot download in the first place. If I don't have it as a file on my computer, I don't own it. You wouldn't pay to 'buy' a physical item if that meant only being able to look at it at the store, without the ability to take it home and do whatever you want with it.

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                                Convenience. Most people reads book once, if they finish it at all.

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                                  On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                                  The only surprise here is that it took them this long to do it.

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                                    Why don’t you use library genesis or Anna‘s archive?

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                                    Library Genesis is down. Maybe for good

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                                      On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                                      I resisted eBooks for years, preferring physical books from the library or new/second hand stores. I got gifted a Kindle from a well meaning relative a few years ago and I have a small collection on there, mainly built up when I was commuting.

                                      This news came just as I am backing up my own data, moving off of the big name Cloud services and going back to open source software. (In confession the convenience of M365 etc won me over so the last 10 or so years I fell into the trap!)

                                      Anyway needless to say my 40(ish) Kindle books quickly got downloaded and archived this week. Thanks to Calibre I've also fixed the covers to a book series that suddenly got updated to an awful 'new hip' version! 🙂

                                      I'm now intrigued about repurposing the Kindle hardware as it still works and I don't want it to go to waste, but with this and other recent events I'm done personally proving data or money to these big corporate companies as much as I possibly can.

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                                        I've had three ereaders, all three were kobo.Yet I wouldn't recommend them anymore. There's a mandatory online activation now. There are ways to bypass it but it's not great.

                                        Many models are unstable with KoReader so it's not even an alternative anymore.

                                        The day I replace my eReader is going to be a hard day.

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                                        I've bought myself a Boox Go Color 7. I love that one, even though it's twice as expensive as a Kobo or Kindle.

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                                          I resisted eBooks for years, preferring physical books from the library or new/second hand stores. I got gifted a Kindle from a well meaning relative a few years ago and I have a small collection on there, mainly built up when I was commuting.

                                          This news came just as I am backing up my own data, moving off of the big name Cloud services and going back to open source software. (In confession the convenience of M365 etc won me over so the last 10 or so years I fell into the trap!)

                                          Anyway needless to say my 40(ish) Kindle books quickly got downloaded and archived this week. Thanks to Calibre I've also fixed the covers to a book series that suddenly got updated to an awful 'new hip' version! 🙂

                                          I'm now intrigued about repurposing the Kindle hardware as it still works and I don't want it to go to waste, but with this and other recent events I'm done personally proving data or money to these big corporate companies as much as I possibly can.

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                                          ebooks have managed to pull the same scam that game developers pulled on gamers 20 years ago.

                                          "ebooks will be cheaper! and with the fact that we wont have to pay for printing, shipping, storage, etc, You'll pay a lower price while the author/publisher still receive more money than they would have from the physical book! its a win/win for everyone!"

                                          aaaand then as soon as they were accepted ebook prices became the same (or near enough) price as the physical version, and in a few rare cases, even more expensive. Resulting in the massive promised profits for publishers, and maybe authors, but no gain but lots of demerits (like obnoxious drm, and shit like amazon going onto your device to delete it cause they lost the rights or something, which has happened) for end users/readers

                                          And thats first party, brand new books.

                                          There is no second hand market for ebooks, like there is from physical. Si theres no browsing a place like Half Price Booked or whatever to find something that isnt in your normal wheel house but thanks to being pre-owed, its cheap enough to roll the dice on.

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