Can we please, PLEASE for gods sake just all agree that arch is not and will never be a good beginner distro no matter how many times you fork it?
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Mint has been nice
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Debian is just the carcinization of Linux.
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I started with EndeavourOS, which is basically Arch, and had a great experience.
I did have someone knowledgeable help guide me a bit at first, but eventually I learned how to find solutions myself on google, and use the Arch wiki.
I must have broke my installation a dozen times, but used Timeshift to bring it back from the dead... And I learned so much about how Linux works in the process. Wouldn't have done it any other way.
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I’m very interested because the name is cool
Lol I love the honesty
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Arch is for people who want bleeding edge and the aur. Gentoo is for people who really hate one particular thing that everything tries to use or have a system with very specific requirements.
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with archinstall as part if the ISO now it is genuinely easier to install than most other distros.
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also systemd is just assumed in 99% of Linux tutorials and questions.
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I'm sure you could make a "beginner" Gentoo distro but it's really so counter to its purpose I don't see it happening.
(something something ChromeOS)
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I'm not sure what a flatpak version could possibly do any better than the version I use.
The official OBS flatpak supports more codecs and integrations than some distro packages.
Stability is also a factor, especially on rolling or cutting edge distros. Fedora RPM release of Blender did not work for me at all with an nvidia GPU, for example.
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They're a liiittle harder but yeah basically
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I'll tell you, nothing bricks as hard or as irreparably as Windows. I have never had to actually reinstall Linux due to some problem (though it's a good practice security-wise).
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I never liked debian or it's derivatives, but since moving to Selfhosting most of my services and needing sane defaults on my server (I'm a noob with server stuff) I've circled back to LMDE after 20 years of using primarily bleeding edge and DIY distros.
I like it, it's nice that it's set and forget and doesn't need constant attention like my bleeding edge stuff always did.
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I was not technically a newbie since I had previously used ubuntu in the distant past, and probably a few others I can't remember, but I came back with EndeavourOS and I'm having a great time. I did have a few challenges though I am fairly tech savvy and I knew what I was getting into so I was definitely not a regular novice.
After a single big oopsie I've been running a very stable system and I've kept with it with practically no issues, at least none I wasn't willing and able to solve. I troubleshot an issue I was having with a package installation the other day without finding any help online and that made me proud of myself.
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I've heard about that, but I haven't tried it myself.
Thanks for mentioning it.
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But we're not talking about rolling or cutting edge distros. MX is based on Debian Stable. Also last time I checked (about a month ago) MX Linux does support Flatpak. Also also, you can enable systemd if you want, but seeing as we're talking about a distro for complete beginners, I don't think they're going to notice, know, or care. Also also also, I really don't care enough about this to drag it out into some protracted argument.
Download ventoy, slap a few distros on a usb stick, try them, use what you like.
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"Conveniently?" I'm not making a case against Arch.
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Nah, maybe 10 years ago or so. Now you install it with a script and it just works.
Installing packages on Arch is way, way easier than doing it on Ubuntu, the OS that for some reason people keep recommending for newcommers.
And since installing packages is about the only thing that you do with your OS as a beginner, that's a big deal -
Thanks! Found Garuda is from this thread! You're a real one!
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What do you mean by "become bullshit"?
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Im like 2 grub breaks away from going back lol
