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Kindle Is Making It Harder to Switch to Rival eReader Brands.

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  • C [email protected]

    On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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    I use a library app called Libby to read non torrented books. But I’m not sure if it’s available on the kindle. It’s good to support your local library, even if it’s only digitally

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    • robotzap10000@feddit.nlR [email protected]

      I just went to pine64.org and I still see the PineNote community version being out of stock on the EU store. Is it available elsewhere?

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      Ahh, the regular store has it listed in stock, not the EU. Don't know if they stock it anywhere else unless someone is reselling.

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        Does that provide epub when baught? Or does it lock you in with their DRM app?

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        I thought you could load bookshop.org eBookd onto a Kindle, but it seems they have their own DRM and you need to use their own app...

        Some of their books are DRM free, but not all. I thought they all were, but it turns out I was wrong.

        So... maybe even bookshop.org isn't the best option for Kindles.

        I guess there really is only one option left...

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          I use a library app called Libby to read non torrented books. But I’m not sure if it’s available on the kindle. It’s good to support your local library, even if it’s only digitally

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          Libby is able to sync with your kindle, and then you just choose "send to Kindle" on your phone when checking a book out and the book will appear in your Kindle library.

          https://help.libbyapp.com/en-us/6017.htm

          If you have a Kindle, this is 100% the best way to read books.

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            i buy most ebooks from a small local bookstore. for the rest there's still zlib

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            Are you buying ebooks in a physical store? How does that work?

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            • generic_computers@lemmy.zipG [email protected]

              To all the people who are saying "I'll just pirate books," you are aware you can buy eBooks from places that Amazon, right?

              Have a look at https://bookshop.org/ebooks
              You can buy books/eBooks and support local bookstores that aren't Barnes & Nobles or Amazon.

              I'd suggest you download/archive your Kindle books and then buy your eBooks from elsewhere. You can still load those onto your Kindle.

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              I hear you saying that, but the books I want to buy are never on those sites.

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              • generic_computers@lemmy.zipG [email protected]

                To all the people who are saying "I'll just pirate books," you are aware you can buy eBooks from places that Amazon, right?

                Have a look at https://bookshop.org/ebooks
                You can buy books/eBooks and support local bookstores that aren't Barnes & Nobles or Amazon.

                I'd suggest you download/archive your Kindle books and then buy your eBooks from elsewhere. You can still load those onto your Kindle.

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                Addendum: that specific site is dog shit. Imagine thinking you just bought an ebook but instead you bought a lease to some DRM shit that only works on their app.

                EPUB or GTFO.

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                • C [email protected]

                  On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                  My favorite sites for actual ebooks are Humble Bundle and Fantastic. But these are predominantly tech books. No idea where I’d get good fiction in epub today.

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                  • noxypaws@pawb.socialN [email protected]

                    That was amusingly well timed:

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                    As it should be.

                    I don't mind a monopoly on a physical product as long as I can jailbreak it, install my own custom hardware, or modify it however I want.

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                      There's also calibre-web for a self-hosted option with a web interface.

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                      IIRC it’s not as feature complete as the fat client

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                        On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                        I've been downloading my books but most of them are DRM so I can't read them on anything BUT a Kindle. I've been thinking about getting another e-reader but I fear I'm trapped.

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                          I've been downloading my books but most of them are DRM so I can't read them on anything BUT a Kindle. I've been thinking about getting another e-reader but I fear I'm trapped.

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                          Just look up Kindle DeDRM, it is easy enough to remove that stuff and then even convert them to epub

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                            As it should be.

                            I don't mind a monopoly on a physical product as long as I can jailbreak it, install my own custom hardware, or modify it however I want.

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                            You don't mind the harm to consumers and the anti-competitive results of Amazon establishing a monopoly on e-readers? Interesting take..

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                              You don't mind the harm to consumers and the anti-competitive results of Amazon establishing a monopoly on e-readers? Interesting take..

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                              Amazon even has a monopoly on e-readers?? I thought that was a more evenly-shared market, with Pocketbook being the most popular, while Boox and others have a sizeable part of the pie. Where I am, Kindles aren't even sold officially, so I don't see them much.

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                                Libraries (and Libby, the app they use) are also making it difficult to do anything but read in a browser or use Kindle.

                                Sadly too true. To be fair though I don't think ANY librarian want that.

                                Here in Belgium we have an online library ( lirtuel.be ) that isn't actually too bad. I looked it up and they say they provided ePub/PDF so I registered right away. Then... I discovered what they meant wasn't ePub/PDF but rather DRMed ePub/PDF (here is an example https://www.lirtuel.be/resources/67aaf2124e480409978b68fb with ePub logo on the top right). Anyway I contacted them explaining that my ebook reader (reMarkable) does not support DRM and thus I couldn't read the content. They pointed me to their documentation https://confluence.demarque.com/confluence/cantook-station/fr/faq/verrou-numerique-et-identifiant-adobe/qu-est-ce-qu-un-verrou-numerique-drm which implies it's all "normal" to use that. I insisted, they didn't reply.

                                Long story short, I'm either not using their service anymore or using DeGourou https://github.com/Bingwithyou/DeGourou to make the content legally loaned actually usable. Sad state of affairs but I'm convinced none of the actual librarians, namely people who care for making knowledge discoverable and accessible like that. I'm sure they've been coerced by same big publishers.

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                                The librarians I've talked to simply don't know how any of this works. I've been told 3 times (the 3rd one today) that epub version of books are not available. Today it was a "trained computer aid that offers technology assistance" saying the epub format I download just last week is not available from the library.

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                                • zombiemantis@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                                  Try explaining how to do that to your non-techie relatives, especially the older ones who like reading. Yes, this makes is more difficult to switch.

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                                  At least my non-techy relatives don't even know that what they're doing is called "pirating", lol. For them, it is just "getting media".

                                  I only learned that some people paid for digital media when I became fluent in English and got exposed to American social media.

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                                    You don't mind the harm to consumers and the anti-competitive results of Amazon establishing a monopoly on e-readers? Interesting take..

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                                      Libby is able to sync with your kindle, and then you just choose "send to Kindle" on your phone when checking a book out and the book will appear in your Kindle library.

                                      https://help.libbyapp.com/en-us/6017.htm

                                      If you have a Kindle, this is 100% the best way to read books.

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                                      pretty sure that is us only

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                                        The Nova 3 released in late 2020, it hasn’t existed for 8 years.

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                                        Ah shit I think you are right. Feels like I have had it forever but seems that was a false memory of some sort.

                                        I bought it while I lived in my previous apartment which I feel was longer ago and so I got a bit confused with the dates I think lol. Thanks for pointing it out.

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                                          IIRC it’s not as feature complete as the fat client

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                                          This. I've personally found it easiest to use Calibre to strip DRM & get things tidy, then use Audiobookshelf to manage both my ebooks and audiobooks

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