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Amazon is changing what is written in books

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  • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

    A hosting provider always has the ability to change what's on their infrastructure. The Kindle store is no different.

    As it happens, they've been doing this for years. For example, the price you set as an author is not fixed nor is how it turns up on the page or how and when it's promoted.

    The standard ebook format is essentially a zipped up series of text files.

    Source: I sell my "Foundations of Amateur Radio" ebooks on the Kindle store

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    Its just a bitter taste, thinking about how a few companies can lay words into the mouth of people they did not even say, years after they died

    I would rather just have them Ban the books, because then you can see how they are manipulating the information you see.

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      Its just a bitter taste, thinking about how a few companies can lay words into the mouth of people they did not even say, years after they died

      I would rather just have them Ban the books, because then you can see how they are manipulating the information you see.

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      Hell, I'm surprised the publishers aren't up in arms about it.

      Amazon is changing copyrighted works.

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        But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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        1984 - Get away from everything GAFAM does

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          But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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          It would be nice if that stuff worked more like git where yeah maybe the release version gets changed but you can always work back through the history to see earlier versions.

          Not git specifically but just deltas from one version to the next instead of replacing the whole thing with a flattened text.

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            It would be nice if that stuff worked more like git where yeah maybe the release version gets changed but you can always work back through the history to see earlier versions.

            Not git specifically but just deltas from one version to the next instead of replacing the whole thing with a flattened text.

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            Yes, but you say it like the Author himself changed it.

            In the specific Example, the book is from before 2000 and the author is long dead. That book is a piece of culture now, displaying the writing style from a place in time where it was normal to discriminate against people. By changing a book, regardless of if it was actually amazon or just some manager that bought up the rights for the book, it is manipulating the Past. Amazon should not allow to do such things

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              Yes, but you say it like the Author himself changed it.

              In the specific Example, the book is from before 2000 and the author is long dead. That book is a piece of culture now, displaying the writing style from a place in time where it was normal to discriminate against people. By changing a book, regardless of if it was actually amazon or just some manager that bought up the rights for the book, it is manipulating the Past. Amazon should not allow to do such things

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              Oh I didn't think I implied that at all. Certainly didn't mean to. I was just commenting that making cultural artifacts that can be revised into delta-based distributions instead of flat is useful for many reasons. But it's no benefit to the corps and most users don't care so of course it won't happen.

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                But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                There are other ways to buy books, I don't understand why so many people have a boner for Amazon. It feels like Stockholm syndrome to me. I've never bought a single book from Amazon, not one.

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                  Oh I didn't think I implied that at all. Certainly didn't mean to. I was just commenting that making cultural artifacts that can be revised into delta-based distributions instead of flat is useful for many reasons. But it's no benefit to the corps and most users don't care so of course it won't happen.

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                  OK, tanks for clarifying that

                  Yes, it would be great.

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                    Yes, but you say it like the Author himself changed it.

                    In the specific Example, the book is from before 2000 and the author is long dead. That book is a piece of culture now, displaying the writing style from a place in time where it was normal to discriminate against people. By changing a book, regardless of if it was actually amazon or just some manager that bought up the rights for the book, it is manipulating the Past. Amazon should not allow to do such things

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                    Flashlight replacing rifles in E.T. was shitty to. Imagine if huck fin was changed it to Skibiddi Jim lol. Amazon can fuck itself just as hard as "the author" in changing the story. I paid for it it's mine if you fuck with it that's vandalism.

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                      But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                      I paid for (the license to view) the books already, so I’m getting epubs from z-library without the slightest bit of moral pain.

                      I could do the calibre decryption thing, but meh.

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                      • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                        A hosting provider always has the ability to change what's on their infrastructure. The Kindle store is no different.

                        As it happens, they've been doing this for years. For example, the price you set as an author is not fixed nor is how it turns up on the page or how and when it's promoted.

                        The standard ebook format is essentially a zipped up series of text files.

                        Source: I sell my "Foundations of Amateur Radio" ebooks on the Kindle store

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                        Does Amazon have permission to change what's in your book though?

                        Copyright prevents them from making derivative works and if they change your text without your permission, that's a clear copyright violation.

                        I don't know how licensing deals work with Amazon but I'm guessing if they are doing this en mass, there is probably some provision in their contract.

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                          But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                          1984 right here.

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                            I paid for (the license to view) the books already, so I’m getting epubs from z-library without the slightest bit of moral pain.

                            I could do the calibre decryption thing, but meh.

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                            Same boat man. 'OK I'll throw a few schmeckles in because the author does need the compensation, but i'm getting the actual book elsewhere.'

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                              But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                              If you're into audiobooks, I strongly recommend libro.fm instead - it's all DRM free downloads, so you never lose access.

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                              • penquin@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                                There are other ways to buy books, I don't understand why so many people have a boner for Amazon. It feels like Stockholm syndrome to me. I've never bought a single book from Amazon, not one.

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                                I’m constantly on the lookout for European alternatives. Are there any EU alternatives to Amazon?

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                                • vk6flab@lemmy.radioV [email protected]

                                  A hosting provider always has the ability to change what's on their infrastructure. The Kindle store is no different.

                                  As it happens, they've been doing this for years. For example, the price you set as an author is not fixed nor is how it turns up on the page or how and when it's promoted.

                                  The standard ebook format is essentially a zipped up series of text files.

                                  Source: I sell my "Foundations of Amateur Radio" ebooks on the Kindle store

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                                  Source: I sell my "Foundations of Amateur Radio" ebooks on the Kindle store

                                  And thank you for the reminder that I should go get a license before the entire system is so messed up that it wouldn't be possible.

                                  Well or it would be irrelevant because no one would care.

                                  Either way!

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                                    But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                                    They got caught doing this over a decade ago as well.

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                                      It would be nice if that stuff worked more like git where yeah maybe the release version gets changed but you can always work back through the history to see earlier versions.

                                      Not git specifically but just deltas from one version to the next instead of replacing the whole thing with a flattened text.

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                                      Like wiki articles.

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                                        If you're into audiobooks, I strongly recommend libro.fm instead - it's all DRM free downloads, so you never lose access.

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                                        Thank you for this! I made an account and may get the membership!

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                                        • penquin@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                                          There are other ways to buy books, I don't understand why so many people have a boner for Amazon. It feels like Stockholm syndrome to me. I've never bought a single book from Amazon, not one.

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                                          You can even buy books directly from publishers. Recently I wanted a hardback copy of a book and it was out of stock, backordered, or absurdly high priced on all the big popular online places. Ended up ordering it for MSRP from Penguin Random House direct.

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