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  3. Perplexity open sources R1 1776, a version of the DeepSeek R1 model that CEO Aravind Srinivas says has been “post-trained to remove the China censorship”.

Perplexity open sources R1 1776, a version of the DeepSeek R1 model that CEO Aravind Srinivas says has been “post-trained to remove the China censorship”.

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  • I [email protected]

    What part is highly critical of China? Facts can't be critical

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    Listen, I'm highly critical of the CCP, but LLMs aren't facts machines, they are make text like what they are trained on machines.

    They have no grasp of truth, and we can only get some sense of truth of what the average collective text response of its dataset (at best!).

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      Listen, I'm highly critical of the CCP, but LLMs aren't facts machines, they are make text like what they are trained on machines.

      They have no grasp of truth, and we can only get some sense of truth of what the average collective text response of its dataset (at best!).

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      I'm talking about the example texts

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        Great. Has it also removed American censorship and propaganda?

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        Why would a Chinese-made AI have American censorship and propaganda in it?

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          Great. Has it also removed American censorship and propaganda?

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          I believe this is what was added

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            My god, could he have chosen a name more cringe than this? Fuck.

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            • facedeer@fedia.ioF [email protected]

              Why would a Chinese-made AI have American censorship and propaganda in it?

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              They can add stuff too. At least it seems so, this model still give biased answers now but more in favor of the US... So who knows ?

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                not remove, replace.

                Also, stop calling releasing binary blobs of weights as open source

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                  Ctrl + F

                  Find: Chinese

                  Replace: God-damned Chinese

                  New model's ready!

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                    I run an uncensored version on my PC since weeks, there are multiple ones on HuggingFace.

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                      My god, could he have chosen a name more cringe than this? Fuck.

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                      An attempt to appeal to U.S. conservatives maybe? You know all that 1776, 3%, ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ etc. sticker suckers.

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                        An attempt to appeal to U.S. conservatives maybe? You know all that 1776, 3%, ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ etc. sticker suckers.

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                        From what I gather from the Perplexity CEO, he is just that type of Musk-tier cringelord, so yes, probably

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                          An attempt to appeal to U.S. conservatives maybe? You know all that 1776, 3%, ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ etc. sticker suckers.

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                          "Pat'rats"

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                          • V [email protected]

                            not remove, replace.

                            Also, stop calling releasing binary blobs of weights as open source

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                            It's honestly not that big a deal, as it's not like knowing anything about how it was trained (beyond the config) would help you modify it. It's still highly modifiable. It's not like anyone can afford to replicate it.

                            It would be nice to publish the hyperparameters for research purposes, but... shrug.

                            I think a subset of the exact training data/hyperparameters would help with quantization-aware-training, maybe, but that's all I got.

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                              I run an uncensored version on my PC since weeks, there are multiple ones on HuggingFace.

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                              Not full R1, which is developed differently than any of the distillations.

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                                Now that it has been "freedomized" it instead says that Israel is actually 3000+ years old and Palestinians are invaders, and Israel has the right to defend itself like chatgpt does. Also that American style liberal democracy is the peak of human development and civilization. Don't kid yourself that this has anything to do with truth or making it more "accurate". Yeah just replace one set of official truths, half thrush with other set of official positions, half truths and outright lies to plug the gaps. Again, who fact checks the factcheckers? Even just out of spite I would not use any model that advertises itself as being trained to answer to the sensibilities of a western techbro liberals so that they can once more outsource their thinking to outside party, because at-least it isn't the CCP propaganda. Like it's so absolutely dreadful when deepseek copy-pastes official CPC party line word for word, on Chinese form of government instead of making up some Wikipedia tier wall of text where the word "authoritarian" is about as common of a word as "the".

                                I just don't get it man. What kind of non thinking cretin purposefully would use this kind of model? It's probably really the pettiness that gets to me so badly. Or maybe it's that while this is purposefully made to push a certain narrative, the deepseek's bias is probably just a result that it's been trainer on Chinese internet data.

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                                My chatgpt will list the questionable human righfs record of Israel ad agree with the conclusion that they are, under the same standards and logic, likely guilty of their accused atrocities as thenlikes of China or Russia.

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