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  • M [email protected]

    Yeah, I tired Audiobookshelf and gave up after fighting with it for a day or two. It refused to read or write any data on my NAS, so it couldn’t actually save/load any audiobook files.

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    Rather annoying. You would think that it shouldn't make a difference whether or not a mounted drive is present in the machine. I run everything I host in containers on a single machine, so I can't say whether I'd have encountered such issues.

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    • jerkface@lemmy.caJ [email protected]

      Self hosting your email server, are you? How many hours a month does that take?

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      I do. It takes about 1 hour every 3 months. It's pretty easy, actually

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      • M [email protected]

        Do you have a friend code we could put in if we do sign up for libro.fm? I don't mind getting people free stuff for recommending awesome products!

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        For sure, thanks!
        https://libro.fm/referral?rf_code=lfm723891

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        • hossenfeffer@feddit.ukH [email protected]

          Yes, I agree.

          But surely you can acknowledge the possibility that some people believe transgenderism is an affront to god and an existential threat to children, or whatever, then their position is not dissimilar.

          That’s the issue. What makes ‘this is offensive’ more valid than ‘this is dangerous’?

          This is just another front in the war between religion and reason.

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          @Hossenfeffer well "this is offensive [to the subject]" is more valid than "this is dangerous [to the reader]" for one. A subject can't choose what the reader thinks of them afterwards - they have to hope that the reader understands enough context to realise they are, actually, equally human. A reader, in contrast, gets to choose whether they agree with the premise. Otherwise history would have destroyed all copies of every religious book, or Mein Kampf or the Little Red Book or Das Kapital.

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          • flisty@mstdn.socialF [email protected]

            @Hossenfeffer well "this is offensive [to the subject]" is more valid than "this is dangerous [to the reader]" for one. A subject can't choose what the reader thinks of them afterwards - they have to hope that the reader understands enough context to realise they are, actually, equally human. A reader, in contrast, gets to choose whether they agree with the premise. Otherwise history would have destroyed all copies of every religious book, or Mein Kampf or the Little Red Book or Das Kapital.

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            @Hossenfeffer as with everything it usually boils down to who has the power/control. An (adult) reader can choose what they read or how they interpret it, and can also often control what a child reads and how that child interprets it too. A subject cannot choose how they are read about, so it is up to the writer and publisher to control that message and reduce misinterpretation where possible. It's a similar framework to cultural appropriation or "doing an accent". Are you punching up or down?

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            • flisty@mstdn.socialF [email protected]

              @Hossenfeffer as with everything it usually boils down to who has the power/control. An (adult) reader can choose what they read or how they interpret it, and can also often control what a child reads and how that child interprets it too. A subject cannot choose how they are read about, so it is up to the writer and publisher to control that message and reduce misinterpretation where possible. It's a similar framework to cultural appropriation or "doing an accent". Are you punching up or down?

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              @Hossenfeffer but when it comes down to it I think really we've ceded our understanding of morality to "the market" anyway. It's bad when politicians say to do it but if "the people" follow (or if, for example, we regulate schools so they *have* to follow) and that's the only way to make it sell then it's ok. Majority rules, I guess. But my personal feeling is that when it comes to pure morality it's about where the power lies. And often that's the power of controlling the narrative.

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              • B [email protected]

                At the same time, they unfortunately can’t imagine things being better. That’s why societies differ a lot between cultures in different parts of the world.

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                Well that and the fact that some of us define better in such ways that others think may be worse. For example there was a trend some years back where Instagram models were damaging Joshua trees, I am of the complete and unshakable opinion that their blood shouldve water a new Joshua tree and their corpse reduced to mulch for said tree. I aint got nothing against whoring oneself out after all money is money but hurting the Joshua trees is a worthy of death.

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                • flisty@mstdn.socialF [email protected]

                  @Hossenfeffer but when it comes down to it I think really we've ceded our understanding of morality to "the market" anyway. It's bad when politicians say to do it but if "the people" follow (or if, for example, we regulate schools so they *have* to follow) and that's the only way to make it sell then it's ok. Majority rules, I guess. But my personal feeling is that when it comes to pure morality it's about where the power lies. And often that's the power of controlling the narrative.

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                  I mean, I don't disagree with anything you say, but that's because I have a progressive mindset. Which kind of was the point.

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                  • E [email protected]

                    Music is definitely not a solved problem. About 30% of my favorite older tunes aren't available on streaming at all, as I discovered when I tried to find a way to casually share with some friends.

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                    They also treat artists like shit. I switched over to Tidal simply to get access to Joanna Newsom's music, as she won't tolerate Spotify's terms. Tidal isn't much better, but it is slightly.

                    I was looking forward to blockchain cutting out the middle man in paying artists. Too bad it has so far not happened that way.

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                    • E [email protected]

                      Music is definitely not a solved problem. About 30% of my favorite older tunes aren't available on streaming at all, as I discovered when I tried to find a way to casually share with some friends.

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                      Music is easily solved.

                      • Qobuz store
                      • Bandcamp
                      • 7Digital
                      • Tidal media downloader
                      • Deemix

                      Screw streaming. Local is always better. Purchase and/or download FLAC. I've got nearly 1 TB of music on my NAS and my collection is regularly growing. From Qobuz and Bandcamp, anything you purchase is owned, and DRM free.


                      Edit - though for me as a Linux user, Qobuz has actually turned this from something perfect into a service issue. Used to be able to just download a tar of your album from them after purchase. Now you have to use their (Windows only) application downloader, or individually download each track as a single download. It's fucking irritating. I don't buy from them now because of it. That said, they can't edit or alter anything I've previously bought and stored locally.

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                      • L [email protected]

                        But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                        I'd also point towards alternative reading apps and hardware and drop everything related to Amazon.

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                        • U [email protected]

                          Don’t use kindle? They aren’t the only ebook provider

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                          it blows my mind that people buy ebooks when Libby is free.

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                            it blows my mind that people buy ebooks when Libby is free.

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                            Seriously. Anna archives, libby. There are so many open source projects out there for the ereader community

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                            • yogurtwrong@lemmy.worldY [email protected]

                              Is there a way to donate to the authors? Because I think pirating and then donating the money (directly) to the author is much more ethical than putting a megacorp or a publisher in between

                              Even better if you send it with something like Monero which doesn't even put the bank between you and the author

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                              Imagine: pirating ebooks but donating money to the author at the same time. Win win.

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                                There's a problem with this "give them what they want and they won't pirate" when it comes to Spotify, yt music, etc:
                                They can change the terms at any moment.
                                AKA enshittification.

                                If you downloaded it or bought a CD? Ain't no enshittification.

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                                You’re absolutely right in that it’s a risk.

                                But you can always buy a CD or digital album and rip the DRM off it. Or pirate it. Assuming you care enough to do that anyways.

                                Me, I’m not really a music fan. Only reason I have YT Music is because it’s included with YT Premium. So it’s not going to bother me much if certain songs or albums disappear. I’ll just listen to other stuff. Music is merely background noise to me.

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                                  The man who made that video is annoying. The story he read out was from the twits by Roald dahl, it was a few years back that those changes were made. Dahl was a great author but wasn’t a very pc person , his family have had to apologise for his anti semitism. So whoever is in charge of his works wanted to make them more modern and less insulting which misses the point of Dahl but anyway.
                                  They’ve done it with Enid blyton books too. In one of hers they have a dog called the n word so probably more necessary with her work lol.

                                  All amazon have done is update the digital edition to the match the latest edition. There’s a million things to hate Amazon for you don’t have to make things up. And also if you want books that can’t be altered buy a paper book, you own them and they don’t run out of electricity.

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                                  Dahl was a great author but wasn’t a very pc person , his family have had to apologise for his anti semitism.

                                  That is putting it very mildly.

                                  "There is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it’s a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews. I mean, there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere. Even a stinker like Hitler didn’t just pick on them for no reason.”

                                  He said that in *checks notes* 1971.

                                  Worse, it was in response to criticism to an article he wrote that was justifiably criticizing Israel at a time when it wasn't so popular to do so. And when he was accused of the old "you're anti-Israel, so you're anti-semitic" nonsense, he decided to go, "hell yeah I am!"

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                                    The man who made that video is annoying. The story he read out was from the twits by Roald dahl, it was a few years back that those changes were made. Dahl was a great author but wasn’t a very pc person , his family have had to apologise for his anti semitism. So whoever is in charge of his works wanted to make them more modern and less insulting which misses the point of Dahl but anyway.
                                    They’ve done it with Enid blyton books too. In one of hers they have a dog called the n word so probably more necessary with her work lol.

                                    All amazon have done is update the digital edition to the match the latest edition. There’s a million things to hate Amazon for you don’t have to make things up. And also if you want books that can’t be altered buy a paper book, you own them and they don’t run out of electricity.

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                                    Changing words seems wrong with it sanitizing and makes future audiences unaware of how bigoted and flawed writers of a time period might be. It underplays cruel parts of society leading to a flawed rosy colored outlook. Now future readers won't know how far from PC writers like Dahl were.

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                                    • A [email protected]

                                      Amazon’s ebook store front (as well as the internet in general) is flooded with AI slop. The internet is a place where the signal to noise ratio is dropping rapidly.

                                      Physical media is necessary. Especially books. Especially the kinds of books regimes might want to ban. When it’s time to rebuild, we’ll need firm ground to stand on, and physical books work as long as you can hold them.

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                                      Or DRMless digital. But yeah, they need to coexist with paper ones.

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        I meant for buying ebooks w/o DRM.

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                                        There's not a lot of great options for buying eBooks outside of amazon imo. There are some options out there but so many people self-publish exclusively on amazon you very well could be better buying off physical copies (which are somehow often cheaper) and legally backing up your books by finding downloads.

                                        Here is a link for some that you can but online though.

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                                        • yogurtwrong@lemmy.worldY [email protected]

                                          Is there a way to donate to the authors? Because I think pirating and then donating the money (directly) to the author is much more ethical than putting a megacorp or a publisher in between

                                          Even better if you send it with something like Monero which doesn't even put the bank between you and the author

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                                          You mean the authors would actually earn money instead of the "publisher"? How unfair! /s

                                          When mist books were made of paper, the publishers job was quite the deal including printing, delivering, stocks, pulp the rests etc. So they took the lions share of the price together with the bookstore and the author got maybe 10-15% from the final price.

                                          Today it's just theft.

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