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‘The tyranny of apps’: those without smartphones are unfairly penalised, say campaigners

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    That is what I noticed. Everything these days require app to get shopping vouchers, book tickets, go in to your local gym, pay in store (we are being weaned off from using cash) etc.

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      You don't need an app to use a loyalty card...

      But yes I am against supermarkets that only provide discounts if you use their loyalty program, which in turn allows them to track your purchases. Especially since many items are priced with the discount as the "fair" price and the full price is really just a money grab.

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      This kinda shit is why I go to Aldi instead. They give everyone the same low prices. Tesco have their clubcard and seeing how much more they want to charge me for not having one puts me off ever going there on a regular basis.

      Also under 18s can't get these loyalty cards here so fuck you I guess you have to pay a load more.

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      • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

        It's not insignificant at all. Servers are beefy and take more power than a standard PC... a lot more. Further, failover servers mean you have to have exact copies of the same server up and available, which means you're doubling, tripling, quadrupling power demands. Finally, you also have to have Uninterruptible Power Supplies, those take an amount of power as well.

        It's a huge power draw. I know because I have a bunch of low-power devices runnig 24/7 as microservices and it still increase my power bill and use by a lot. I regularly get letters from the power company about how I'm using like 3x the power of the average person in my type of unit.

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        I regularly get letters from the power company about how I'm using like 3x the power of the average person in my type of unit.

        I'm also using a lot of self hosted things but have never received any of those.

        Where do you reside generally where they're sending them because it ain't a thing here in the UK?

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          Get out of the stone age.

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          Someone make a smartphone that isn't a steaming pile of shit then. The pinephone was so close but struggled with SMS when I tried it.

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            I regularly get letters from the power company about how I'm using like 3x the power of the average person in my type of unit.

            I'm also using a lot of self hosted things but have never received any of those.

            Where do you reside generally where they're sending them because it ain't a thing here in the UK?

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            US, west coast.

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              US, west coast.

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              I don't think I'd feel "attacked" but more impressed that I came to light if they sent me them very much like a naughty "copyright warning" and would send it back with a brick in it.

              Cheers!

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                Cloudalist's and their technofuedalism

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                • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                  It's not insignificant at all. Servers are beefy and take more power than a standard PC... a lot more. Further, failover servers mean you have to have exact copies of the same server up and available, which means you're doubling, tripling, quadrupling power demands. Finally, you also have to have Uninterruptible Power Supplies, those take an amount of power as well.

                  It's a huge power draw. I know because I have a bunch of low-power devices runnig 24/7 as microservices and it still increase my power bill and use by a lot. I regularly get letters from the power company about how I'm using like 3x the power of the average person in my type of unit.

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                  I had not considered that an uninterruptible power supply would be consuming power after charging. I suppose no electronics are 100% efficient at what they do.

                  I've been playing with a Proxmox server on an ITX system for local services and rare game hosting for friends. I'd love something low power I could have on all the time.

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                    I mean I simply refuse to ask QR code phishing is a thing

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                    You might enjoy SecScannerQR then. It makes it easier to vet QR codes by giving an option to search for the URL instead of going there directly.

                    https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.t_dankworth.secscanqr/

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                      "Continue reading this on the reddit/instagram/tik tok/blablah app" No, I didn't need to see it that badly.

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                        My old apartment had gates that could only be opened with an app. They took out the card reader and made it app only. Should have gotten out of there much earlier than I did.

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                        Yeah, that's a nope from me. I'm trying to eliminate as many apps from my life as I can.

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                          Even the homeless in my city have smartphones.

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                            Even if I was willing to download all of those apps I don't have room for them. They chew up 50-300mb each (why!?) and if I installed all of them I'd run out of memory. Since most phones now don't support memory expansion I have to be picky about which ones I use.

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                              That and those servers are going to be running anyway. Powering a simple restaurant website is a grain of sand on the beach of internet usage.

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                              Yeah, exactly. If you're worried about the power draw to host a few hundred KB PDF file, you probably shouldn't be using Lemmy, because scrolling through your feed probably uses 100x that in energy costs.

                              You have to remember that the shared hosting or aws, or wherever is going to be cheapest to host a simple website is also going to be very power efficient. Wasting power is just throwing away free money, and if there's one thing corporations don't do, it's throw away free money.

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                                that stuff is nice as an option. There's a bar I go to that I can order my food and drink to the table my friends are at, while I'm walking to the place, and everything just arrives shortly after I sit down. Other people get offended about how fast I get served, it's always amusing. I also enjoy not interacting with the staff, nothing against them, brain just doesn't brain sometimes.

                                But what if I didn't have a phone? or if I left home without it? 24/7 pocket rectangle is not natural.

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                                Losing your phone now is like losing not just your wallet but simple access to everything.

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                                  You don't need an app to use a loyalty card...

                                  But yes I am against supermarkets that only provide discounts if you use their loyalty program, which in turn allows them to track your purchases. Especially since many items are priced with the discount as the "fair" price and the full price is really just a money grab.

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                                  Same. We have two grocery stores nearby, both with loyalty programs. One requires using the program to get discounts, while the other doesn't (you just miss out on points). Guess which I shop at...

                                  If I need to go to the other one (Kroger family), I'll use my parents' number so they get the points. I go maybe once/year if there's a particularly good deal.

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                                    Same. We have two grocery stores nearby, both with loyalty programs. One requires using the program to get discounts, while the other doesn't (you just miss out on points). Guess which I shop at...

                                    If I need to go to the other one (Kroger family), I'll use my parents' number so they get the points. I go maybe once/year if there's a particularly good deal.

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                                    Last time I went to a new-to-me grocery store that I didn't have a loyalty card for, I just used [local area code]-867-5309. Jenny hasn't failed me yet.

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                                      You might enjoy SecScannerQR then. It makes it easier to vet QR codes by giving an option to search for the URL instead of going there directly.

                                      https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.t_dankworth.secscanqr/

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                                      Ooh. Now do iOS.

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                                        I flat-out refuse to do business with any that requires I use an app. I won't even scan a QR code for a restaurant menu; that's my cue to go eat elsewhere.

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                                        Worst thing about qr menus for me is that when I finally order, I have to give my phone number and address. Bro, I'm sitting across from the kitchen and just want dumplings. Why I gotta dox myself for that?

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                                          also those who dont want to install that spyware shit on their phones. Even if you dont care about the data collection it still consumes battery faster as more and more data is being transferred

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                                          McDonald’s (in Germany at least) needs your location to “see when you arrive at the restaurant”. What the hell?! That doesn’t even work properly and they force it on me! I uninstalled the app and now I am actually happy, because without the promotion and discount stuff, I don’t eat McDanks that often anymore.

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