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      Oh God...

      I remember first reading Dead Internet and 'wow this is some high grade vaguely antisemetic conspiricy bullshit here'

      And now...

      I live in an America where one of the major political parties has people doing the fucking nazi salute and corruption is talked about as if it were normal with dissenting voices dismissed as crankery.

      At this point if the Ai thinks we should be exterminated? I've no counter-argument that is based outside of a desire to want to live....

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        Oh God...

        I remember first reading Dead Internet and 'wow this is some high grade vaguely antisemetic conspiricy bullshit here'

        And now...

        I live in an America where one of the major political parties has people doing the fucking nazi salute and corruption is talked about as if it were normal with dissenting voices dismissed as crankery.

        At this point if the Ai thinks we should be exterminated? I've no counter-argument that is based outside of a desire to want to live....

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        wow this is some high grade vaguely antisemetic conspiricy bullshit here'

        When ruling class doesn't like peasants talking about something they will label it as "conspiracy", "antisemetism", "promoting violence" etc

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          wow this is some high grade vaguely antisemetic conspiricy bullshit here'

          When ruling class doesn't like peasants talking about something they will label it as "conspiracy", "antisemetism", "promoting violence" etc

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          I live with Qanon believers.

          Do not go down that road with me. Mostly because the whole point of your argument feeds into hating a group that has been the scapegoat those in power have been blaming since roman times to avoid getting scrutinized.

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            This is wild. Another problem with fudging what used to be a trail is what that means for fingerprinting people online. Especially given recent attempts to take down the Internet Archive. I'm not saying forum histories are/were iron-clad "paper"/e-trails, but they can and do get used for cross-platform profiling.

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              Oh God...

              I remember first reading Dead Internet and 'wow this is some high grade vaguely antisemetic conspiricy bullshit here'

              And now...

              I live in an America where one of the major political parties has people doing the fucking nazi salute and corruption is talked about as if it were normal with dissenting voices dismissed as crankery.

              At this point if the Ai thinks we should be exterminated? I've no counter-argument that is based outside of a desire to want to live....

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              Anti sematic behaviour is unfortunately part of the internet and general historical data, which means it could very well be an undercurrent in training data. AIs then could exhibit subconscious biases, no matter how many times the creators tell them not to be racist.

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                Anti sematic behaviour is unfortunately part of the internet and general historical data, which means it could very well be an undercurrent in training data. AIs then could exhibit subconscious biases, no matter how many times the creators tell them not to be racist.

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                Nono, the theory most people hear is the one about AI taking over. I read the original post with the theory written there devolving into this big giant global conspiricy where (coded language for jewish shadow government) is profiting off of everyone because of the AI takeover.

                The idea that human contnet is getting croweded out, that part i absolutely buy.

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                  Oh God...

                  I remember first reading Dead Internet and 'wow this is some high grade vaguely antisemetic conspiricy bullshit here'

                  And now...

                  I live in an America where one of the major political parties has people doing the fucking nazi salute and corruption is talked about as if it were normal with dissenting voices dismissed as crankery.

                  At this point if the Ai thinks we should be exterminated? I've no counter-argument that is based outside of a desire to want to live....

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                  At this point if the Ai thinks we should be exterminated? I’ve no counter-argument that is based outside of a desire to want to live…

                  People's right to self-determination over their lives maybe? This is no better than the fascists wanting to kill whatever their "undesirable" minoroty of the day is.

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                    At this point if the Ai thinks we should be exterminated? I’ve no counter-argument that is based outside of a desire to want to live…

                    People's right to self-determination over their lives maybe? This is no better than the fascists wanting to kill whatever their "undesirable" minoroty of the day is.

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                    Thanks.

                    Just... in a very pessimistic frame of mind.

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                      Thanks.

                      Just... in a very pessimistic frame of mind.

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                      I have this post to offer: https://www.tumblr.com/avidcollectorofdust/776146560975339520

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                        I have this post to offer: https://www.tumblr.com/avidcollectorofdust/776146560975339520

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                          Official response from Greg Bernhardt

                          It's years since I last used PhysicsForums, but found it immensely useful in the old days while going through my undergrad physics degree (it was less useful for PhD courses). I am not morally opposed to providing AI attempts at an answer in threads where nobody else chimes in. However, using real accounts that belong to other users is wildly over the line. I was surprised to see this wasn't really called out in the official response thread by the existing users as that is the part of all this that is the most egregious to me.

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                            Smh. edited

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                              Nono, the theory most people hear is the one about AI taking over. I read the original post with the theory written there devolving into this big giant global conspiricy where (coded language for jewish shadow government) is profiting off of everyone because of the AI takeover.

                              The idea that human contnet is getting croweded out, that part i absolutely buy.

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                              See I don't follow that one, because how are they actually making money in this theory?

                              In the real world the ai bullshit is just another grift that's a giant money pit. While I recognise people that follow these kinds of theories probably don't have critical thinking skills, I wish they would following thinking to it's conclusion. It's a stupid hope I know.

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                                See I don't follow that one, because how are they actually making money in this theory?

                                In the real world the ai bullshit is just another grift that's a giant money pit. While I recognise people that follow these kinds of theories probably don't have critical thinking skills, I wish they would following thinking to it's conclusion. It's a stupid hope I know.

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                                That's where most of the secret new cabal theories fall apart.

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                                  Smh. edited

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                                  You are awesome. Thanks

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                                    I have this post to offer: https://www.tumblr.com/avidcollectorofdust/776146560975339520

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                                    Thanks, I think I needed to read this today.

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                                      That's where most of the secret new cabal theories fall apart.

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                                      For sure. I can at least give them the benefit of the doubt when they say that shadow organisations are trying to control them. Like that can happen, it does happen, it's kind of happening. Motivations can range from societal change to world ending prophecy. However when they say shit is explicitly for making money, that's a very clear cut goal you can easily prove or disprove.

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