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  • A [email protected]

    This is misinformation. They added the login requirement for their Generative AI and the actual notepad doesn't require a login. But I guess we're ragebaiting today.

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    Having this LLM bullshit in Notepad should be the real news

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    • shady_shiroe@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

      My understanding of the different operating systems

      MacOS: One time hardware payment for their service (plus for every other device)

      Linux: Free as in price free and freedom

      Windows: 30+ subscriptions to edit 1 file, then cooldown till next day or upgrade subscriptions to enterpise version for a kidney/per user/per month.

      ::: spoiler Title
      ChomeOS: Communism for the children, supported by the Education System
      :::

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      #176

      Apple heavily pushes their users towards iCloud subscriptions. More so on iOS than macOS but still.

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      • psythik@lemm.eeP [email protected]

        Notepad++ FTW

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        Sublime Text for me. It has some nifty features that NP++ doesn't, and looks better out of the box.

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        • R [email protected]

          Linux is as messy and more as the apartment where I live (really bad).

          If you want the operating system to make sense, use OpenBSD (no Wine, no Linux emulation, thus only native games) or NetBSD (there is Wine and Linux emulation, but limited) or FreeBSD (generally can do the same as Linux), but all three port graphics drivers from Linux with significant lag, and hardware support is worse in general.

          And Microsoft facilitates fascism

          There's a lot of Linux in systems that governments and militaries use.

          Throw away your phone,

          Yes, right. Also change job so that an Android device for 2FA weren't a requirement. And get used that I can't communicate with someone over TG/WA/VK in transport.

          And still be surveilled, because the information you give about yourself without an Android phone is sufficient, carrying one is a symbolic decapitation of your privacy and dignity, "symbolic" is the word.

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          What a sycophantic shitlord.

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          • v4ld1z@lemmy.zipV [email protected]

            Finally, I can proudly proclaim that I'm no longer bound Microsoft's bullshit. Been a rocky start, but I've been happily using Kubuntu on my Surface for a while now, and it's going awesome

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            I have a lenovo yoga 14s which is similarly transformable. Are there good resources put there for installing linux on this kind of laptop?

            Honestly Windows on it is just a nightmare and I'd love to ditch it.

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            • T [email protected]

              What a sycophantic shitlord.

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              Something insulted you in my comment or you feel the urge to take sides in things you most likely haven't compared? Linux is a mess compared to BSDs. Anyone who used them all can confirm this.

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                Something insulted you in my comment or you feel the urge to take sides in things you most likely haven't compared? Linux is a mess compared to BSDs. Anyone who used them all can confirm this.

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                You mean the entire fucking world where *BSD is basically dead and Linux is fucking everywhere? Yeah... sure, buddy.

                *BSD has always been a poor alternative to Linux because of design decisions, poor hardware support, and a garbage license that allows non-free software to steal and use your code irresponsibly. *BSD sucks.

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                • L [email protected]

                  Is the Genevieve AI enabled by default?

                  After opening the notepad app does it ask you for that login?

                  Is your access to notepad restricted by the login?

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                  #182

                  No, only in so far as the button to use it existing passively

                  No

                  And no

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                  • excrubulent@slrpnk.netE [email protected]

                    I have a lenovo yoga 14s which is similarly transformable. Are there good resources put there for installing linux on this kind of laptop?

                    Honestly Windows on it is just a nightmare and I'd love to ditch it.

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                    Nothing I could find immediately. I found an Arch Wiki entry which shows that most features work out of the box. Not sure if that's your exact model and can't comment on how reliable the information presented is too.

                    https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lenovo_Yoga_14s_2021

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                    • T [email protected]

                      You mean the entire fucking world where *BSD is basically dead and Linux is fucking everywhere? Yeah... sure, buddy.

                      *BSD has always been a poor alternative to Linux because of design decisions, poor hardware support, and a garbage license that allows non-free software to steal and use your code irresponsibly. *BSD sucks.

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                      You mean the entire fucking world where *BSD is basically dead and Linux is fucking everywhere? Yeah… sure, buddy.

                      This is not a valid argument and also you are quite ignorant of what's everywhere and what is dead.

                      *BSD has always been a poor alternative to Linux

                      The other way around technically, one came before the other and was a more mature system, with ongoing lawsuits however.

                      Also SunOS 4 and Ultrix are BSD, if you didn't know. Commercial high-end OSes before Linux even started. About "poor alternatives".

                      because of design decisions,

                      You don't know what you're talking about, anything but this argument. BSDs' design decisions allow them to solve the same problems orders of magnitude cheaper (in human effort) than Linux. That's how they still survive.

                      Under FreeBSD there are GEOM, netgraph, properly working ZFS since long ago, proper separation of base system and packages, the ports system, Linux emulation for legacy software, all orderly and clean. Under Linux the horrible mess starts with Debian netinstall.

                      By the way, you don't even know your own team, Eric S. Raymond of the "cathedral vs bazaar" glory notoriously disagreed with you, despite the comparison being supposed to put Linux on top. His point was that if you allow thousands of monkey developers, they might not do things so well, but they'll do so much more that it's justified, and thus Linux wins due to having shittier architecture, but developing faster.

                      poor hardware support,

                      Go use Windows then, it has almost perfect hardware support.

                      and a garbage license that allows non-free software to “steal” (take) and use your code irresponsibly.

                      So Google uses GPL code responsibly, right? Microsoft? Apple? Meta?

                      This argument is obsolete.

                      I dunno where the circus is, but the clowns are already here.

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                      • horse@feddit.orgH [email protected]

                        I guess for desktops you have a point, especially if you build it yourself. I was thinking of laptops mostly and also considering the build quality and things like the keyboard/trackpad, screen and speaker quality. If you want something comparable running Windows the price difference isn't going to be massive.

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                        You can buy a top CPU laptop then upgrade or even pay to upgrade with high quality ram and storage modules and you would still be paying less than an equivalent Mac. Which you can't upgrade of course, because the only option is buying as is out of the gate. No matter what Apple says, 32 GB of ram simply doesn't cost $300, their pricing is meant to fleece customers.

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                        • E [email protected]

                          I want a clean, advanced, well designed desktop and Im okay with redoing my work flow

                          Use Gnome

                          Gnome is cool but can it be slightly more Windows?

                          Use Cosmic (PopOS)

                          I want lots of customization, advanced features, and a traditional windows desktop metaphor

                          Use KDE

                          I want Windows and don't really care about customization

                          Use Cinnamon

                          Dude the Windows 9x look was fucking dope

                          Use Mate

                          Im installing this on a potato

                          Use XFCE

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                          This is always so unfair to XFCE. Sure it is low impact on resources but it is also very flexible and customizable. Most people sleep on how good it can be outside of the low resources need.

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                          • v4ld1z@lemmy.zipV [email protected]

                            Nothing I could find immediately. I found an Arch Wiki entry which shows that most features work out of the box. Not sure if that's your exact model and can't comment on how reliable the information presented is too.

                            https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lenovo_Yoga_14s_2021

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                            Thanks! Looks like on the talk page there's doubt about whether it even has a touchscreen, which is a little discouraging. I guess I can just try, but It's good to know a resource like this exists.

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                            • T [email protected]

                              It literally is. It's part of the KDE Plasma desktop.

                              The Vim, nano command line text editors being there doesn't mean Kate isn't an OS app.

                              Would you say the Dolphin file explorer isn't an OS/system app on the basis that you can use commands like cd, mv, cp, pwd in terminal? Because I certainly wouldn't.

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                              It’s part of the KDE Plasma desktop.

                              KDE is not "The OS".

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                                Having this LLM bullshit in Notepad should be the real news

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                                They really do seem to be on a mission to cram it into everything

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                                  You can buy a top CPU laptop then upgrade or even pay to upgrade with high quality ram and storage modules and you would still be paying less than an equivalent Mac. Which you can't upgrade of course, because the only option is buying as is out of the gate. No matter what Apple says, 32 GB of ram simply doesn't cost $300, their pricing is meant to fleece customers.

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                                  Is there a particular model you're thinking of? Not just the line. I usually find that the Windows laptops don't have enough cooling or make other sacrifices. If you want good cooling, good power (CPU and GPU), good screen, good keyboard, good battery, good WiFi, etc: the options get limited pretty quick.

                                  Even the RAM cost misses some of the picture. Apple Silicon's RAM is available to the GPU and can run local LLMs and other machine learning models. Pre-AI-hype Macs from 2021 (maybe 2020) already had this hardware. Compare that to PC laptops othe same era. Even in this era, try getting Apple's 200-400GB/s RAM performance on a PC laptop.

                                  PC desktop hardware is the most flexible option at any budget, and pretty cost effective and most budgets. For laptops, Apple dominate their price points, even pre-Apple-silicon.

                                  The OS becomes the final nail in the coffin. Linux is great, but the reality is a lot of software still only supports Windows and Apple; and Linux support for the latest/current hardware can be a hit or miss (My three-year-old, 12th gen Thinkpad just started running good). If the choice is between Mac OS or Windows 11, is there really much of a choice? Does that change if a company wants to buy it, manage it, and support it? Which model should we be looking at? It's about time to replace my Thinkpad.

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                                    Having this LLM bullshit in Notepad should be the real news

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                                    Yeah. This is why I've disabled copilot and Gemini on my devices altogether. It's not worth it to have this nonsense filling up everything you use or rely on on a daily basis.

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                                      It’s part of the KDE Plasma desktop.

                                      KDE is not "The OS".

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                                      You're sounding like one of those people that says "ummm ackshully it's GNU + Linux"

                                      Yes, you can have a desktop without a desktop environment. Well done. Nobody does that in the desktop space. Kate is an OS program.

                                      If you install a distro with KDE, you will have Kate. It's an OS program.

                                      Case in point, you can install Kate, and Dolphin, on FreeBSD. And on Windows.

                                      Pahahaha, that's not what defines whether a program is an OS one or not. You can run paint on Linux if you wanted to. Based on your definition, Paint therefore isn't part of the Windows app suite.

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                                        This is Gnomes biggest advantage to be honest. They have a singular vision of how they want their product to work and they aren't concerned with edge uses.

                                        I enjoy elements of so many DEs but I keep coming back to gnome because it's just so well executed over the others.

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                                        Yeah my only complaints with gnome are the lack of system tray and the fact that sticky keys don't work well

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                                          You're sounding like one of those people that says "ummm ackshully it's GNU + Linux"

                                          Yes, you can have a desktop without a desktop environment. Well done. Nobody does that in the desktop space. Kate is an OS program.

                                          If you install a distro with KDE, you will have Kate. It's an OS program.

                                          Case in point, you can install Kate, and Dolphin, on FreeBSD. And on Windows.

                                          Pahahaha, that's not what defines whether a program is an OS one or not. You can run paint on Linux if you wanted to. Based on your definition, Paint therefore isn't part of the Windows app suite.

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                                          You’re sounding like one of those people that says “ummm ackshully it’s GNU + Linux, not Linux”

                                          No, I'm one of those people that understand that a DE is not the OS. A DE is a component one can install, but doesn't have to, in order to have a fully functional OS. Most certainly one does not require Kate in order to have a Linux OS installed. I have thousands of linux machines I manage that DON'T have Kate installed.

                                          If you install a distro with KDE, you will have Kate. It’s an OS program.

                                          Weird, because I only have Kate because I asked for it to get installed. It didn't come along for the ride when I installed KDE.

                                          Pahahaha, that’s not what defines whether a program is an OS one or not. You can run paint on Linux if you wanted to. Based on your definition, Paint therefore isn’t part of the Windows app suite.

                                          Paint comes on the MS Windows ISO (Or did), and with zero choice given, ever, MS Paint gets installed.

                                          I installed MX Linux yesterday, and Kate was not installed.

                                          I installed KDE on Freebsd a couple of weeks ago, and Kate was not installed.

                                          Let’s get back on topic - do you think a normal user will hear “Kate” and think “ah, that must be the text editor!”, do you think they’ll hear “Dolphin” and think “ah, that must be a file manager of some kind!”?

                                          I don't think any of that matters, tbh. Every user will have things to learn, once they switch to a new OS.

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