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Apparently, 12% of Technology Workers Believe that MacOS is based on Linux

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    This would indicate its not a cut and dry as the youtuber suggests and also I would assume he is not a historian(no clue who he is) so its unclear why his opinion or definition of computer program should usurp that of most historians who would recognise a term may change over time and be less well defined initially when inspiring a new technology?

    He's a long-standing member of the tech pundit community (dare I say the Linux community), and in recent years has been exposed as antivax, anti-woke, and a bigot. Before that he was just a confident sounding asshole with sometimes interesting opinions.

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    Fair. I didnt check any of the other myths so some may well be myths. Just interesting to me that his opinion is stated as fact when its a bit of a grey area and one could easily interpret her to be the first programmer in some ways. Its not like a computer has to exist to write a computer program, for example, you can imagine a world where all computers are destroyed in an event but a surviving programmer can still write a computer program if you just handed them a stone tablet and charcoal. The non existence of a computer is problem, and a computer program written in a textbook is also valid.

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      Fair. I didnt check any of the other myths so some may well be myths. Just interesting to me that his opinion is stated as fact when its a bit of a grey area and one could easily interpret her to be the first programmer in some ways. Its not like a computer has to exist to write a computer program, for example, you can imagine a world where all computers are destroyed in an event but a surviving programmer can still write a computer program if you just handed them a stone tablet and charcoal. The non existence of a computer is problem, and a computer program written in a textbook is also valid.

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      For the record I wasn't disagreeing with your point or criticizing it at all. Just trying to give some context that might explain what you were observing.

      🙂

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        For the record I wasn't disagreeing with your point or criticizing it at all. Just trying to give some context that might explain what you were observing.

        🙂

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        Yes understand completely:)

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          He's an anti-woke crusader and bigot. A large chunk (probably most) of his "content" is actually about that.

          ::: spoiler CW all sorts of bigotry
          "Best Alternatives to Woke Software", "Devuan: The Non-Woke Debian Linux Fork", lots of shit like that.

          He loves talking about so-called "reverse racism", he thinks white people are oppressed in US tech.

          Here's a recent one:

          https://lunduke.substack.com/p/meta-ending-del-ending-fact-checking

          They [Meta] are allowing criticism of LGTBQ+blublublub issues, including *snicker* the statement that gay people are mentally ill [...] and they're allowing vaccine skepticism on the platform [...] and it is, I'm not gonna lie, mildly hilarious.
          :::

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          He also says, Palestine supporters and Hamas supporters are, and I quote, one and the same.

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          • jumuta@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

            isn't Linux Unix-like?

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            #145

            One could argue that "based" covers this kind of inspiration 😉

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            • adrianthefrog@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

              You could keep the kernel tho while changing the gui

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              The windows kernel isn't all that great, particularly in the realm of memory security or scheduling.

              You know, to each their own. Question is really whether windows maintaining a closed source kernel even makes sense from a maintenance burden perspective when it really doesn't give them much money in return. (Most of their money in 2025 comes from cloud services, not operating systems)

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                This would vary by instance. I don't see that lemmy.world specifies the terms for user content, which really should be fixed.

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                It’s a hard problem in the fediverse. It makes for a ticking time bomb of an issue. Imagine I am on a “everything is your own, we don’t sell your stuff” instance while another instance just copy pasted metas ToS. By posting a response to my instance, which then in turn is federated to the meta style instance I create something hard to solve. I can foresee other issues too.

                I see your point. I just think it’s a difficult problem.

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                  Stop posting Lunduke stuff. This dude sucks and has a long history of sucking.

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                  I've come across this person's face randomly but know nothing about them. Could you help the lazy and tell me why he sucks?

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                    Except for the part where decades' worth of software no longer runs on Windows.

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                    Try to run old soft on windows though😓

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                    • C [email protected]

                      Except for the part where decades' worth of software no longer runs on Windows.

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                      Seriously, Microsoft's absurd level of commitment to backwards compatibility is the entire reason Windows has such staying power. I had to fuck around with things to get a Linux port of a ten year old game running without issues, and it was even the Steam version, but Windows will install and run most twenty year old games right off of the original CD without the user having to do anything at all.

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                        I've come across this person's face randomly but know nothing about them. Could you help the lazy and tell me why he sucks?

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                        Um...phrasing!

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                          Um...phrasing!

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                          Are we still doing phrasing?

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                            Surely it's less work to maintain security patches for a few prior versions of windows than it is to indefinitely maintain backwards compatibility

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                            Sure, and for home users the backwards compatibility feature only really comes up for people into retro-gaming, but a significant portion of their customer base is government agencies that haven't updated their software since the '90s. The old hardware is dying, so they need new stuff, and that means something with a new OS to run it, but it also needs to be able to run an ancient program that can only be replaced if some some seventy-something who calls every console a Nintendo can be made to understand why software older than their grandkids isn't the best thing to have, and they might need to introduce and pass a bill to get it done, not to mention budgeting to commission a company to code the replacement.

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                              I've come across this person's face randomly but know nothing about them. Could you help the lazy and tell me why he sucks?

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                              Some dude explained below.

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                              • vindictivejudge@lemmy.worldV [email protected]

                                Seriously, Microsoft's absurd level of commitment to backwards compatibility is the entire reason Windows has such staying power. I had to fuck around with things to get a Linux port of a ten year old game running without issues, and it was even the Steam version, but Windows will install and run most twenty year old games right off of the original CD without the user having to do anything at all.

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                                I hear this a lot but in production I still see xp/win 7 era PC's all the time due to comparability issues (half the time still online too 😕 )

                                Maybe its just absurd support for big spenders like the US military?

                                Seems like the small companies are mostly getting burned by gambling on MS

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                                • jumuta@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                                  isn't Linux Unix-like?

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                                  Yeah, it is it's own free (as in freedom) alternative to it. It's in the name GNU: GNU's Not Unix

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                                  • mooglemaestro@lemmy.zipM [email protected]

                                    The windows kernel isn't all that great, particularly in the realm of memory security or scheduling.

                                    You know, to each their own. Question is really whether windows maintaining a closed source kernel even makes sense from a maintenance burden perspective when it really doesn't give them much money in return. (Most of their money in 2025 comes from cloud services, not operating systems)

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                                    Rumors (Yes, just rumors, I know) have it that MS is working on a shim to be able to just use the Linux kernel under the hood. That's what spawned WSL. It is a side effect of the work to get the shim between the Win64 userland and Linux kernel. The shim will probably be a temporary thing, until all the ABIs are done.

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                                    • cosmiccleric@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                      Honestly I don’t believe it would help myself

                                      It would help if the companies that are training their LLMs honor content creators licenses. If they ignore the law in that, then it would in theory need to be policed.

                                      In either case, its a quick copy/paste on my part, so /shrug.

                                      As someone else mentioned, it’s probably people who simply have to correct others when they don’t share the option. Doubt it would be anything like being in support of LLMs, probably the opposite.

                                      I don't know. It would behoove those who need our content to train their LLMs to intimidate/redirect people away from licensing their content. And I can't imagine regular people getting so caught up to spend so much time on this issue. If you look through my comment history, starting 9-10 months ago, and see how many replies I've gotten, and how posts talk about this issue (https://lemmy.ml/post/15152684), I can't imagine a single link would cause all of that. Theres got to be something more to it than that.

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                                      I was around when that was an active topic back then so I am aware. It's just I don't trust any or most companies to respect it anyway. Also as someone else suggested, look into automation lol, I thought you had something like an email signature that gets added automatically.

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                                        Well like it or not, your footer is just a part of your comments, and so people are invited to respond however they wish when you post it on lemmy. If you don't like people making the same replies, you can simply stop posting the same content in every comment.

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                                        Well like it or not, your footer is just a part of your comments, and so people are invited to respond however they wish when you post it on lemmy.

                                        That logic doesn't track though, as that content is just a footer, it is not the actual content of what's being discussed in the post, which is what people should be responding to.

                                        It would be the same as if for every comment I made on a subject it opposed people instead started asking me questions about my username, and not discussing the subject of the post.

                                        If you don’t like people making the same replies, you can simply stop posting the same content in every comment.

                                        You really shouldn't be "blaming the victim" on this one.

                                        Even if what you said previously is true, when a person has been directed to a location where an answer to their question has already been given, and they refuse to do so, but instead continue to badger the person directly, that's detrimental to the conversation being had (by derailing it), as well as I would argue to Lemmy itself. And if done enough times on purpose could be considered harassment.

                                        People should not be able to dictate what other people put in their comments, and should definitely not harass them continuously over what they have in their comments.

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                                        • dan@upvote.auD [email protected]

                                          I saw this exact same comic a while back but it was for Fish Linux.

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                                          Luigi surrealism

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