If it is worth keeping, save it in Markdown
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I wholly disagree with this after using markdown for everything for a few reasons, but it may work for some people if you really love operating from a basic CLI. Some people also get by with storing everything in plain-text files as well. Why not, plain-text will still be supported as well.
Markdown, especially CommonMark, will likely never provide what you want. Is it convenient when you have hundreds or thousands of files to manually manage? Most likely you'll constantly be searching for ways to make markdown work more like a word processor, because what you really want is a powerful WYSIWYG content management database.
I'm not going to judge someone if they are content with basic markdown. It isn't my place to. But to make a statement like, "if it is worth keeping, save it in Markdown" is preaching from a bubble.
The problem with Markdown is it kind of sucks. CommonMark didn't even defragment the markdown world, since there are numerous incompatible extensions. It seems like gfm is the best among them, or at least the most featureful.
I know there are other options like RST or AsciiDoc, but I don't know which among them is actually "the best."
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No print it, everything digital needs a fairly complex machinery to work.
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I migrated from mediawiki to markdown in git 8 years ago and never looked back. The ability to publish to any number of static site hosts, and use any number of editors, some that have preview mode, is rad. Data liberty, data portability, wide support, easy to convert, easy to grep, good enough for 95% of written notes.
My biggest gripe is poor support for tables of data.
Ugh tables are really the killer. If my editor doesn't support tables then I avoid them like the plague.
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Sure does; other people understand it too.
Your kids in 20 years trying to find your will, will love you.
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Handwritten HTML with limited tags works just as well for many purposes (just forbid div, span, and a few others and the complexity you see in most webpages evaporates). The important part is using a text-based format from which information can be extracted even if the fancier display protocols become obsolete.
Which is markdown
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I like more Org Mode but I know that Markdown now is more universal. But... The best of both formatos is that I can use any plain text editor for read and editing it
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Ugh tables are really the killer. If my editor doesn't support tables then I avoid them like the plague.
What do you mainly use that supports tables?
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Which is markdown
Not really. HTML has a formal standard and definition that covers how to properly handle most corner cases that can arise when displaying it. Markdown has no overarching formal standard and exists in multiple dialects which are not always compatible with each other.
On the gripping hand, HTML involves more keystrokes (and technically speaking you need to include a bit of boilerplate in the file for it to be proper HTML). So it depends on whether you're willing to do a bit more typing to make sure that no one can possibly confuse your italics with boldface.
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Not really. HTML has a formal standard and definition that covers how to properly handle most corner cases that can arise when displaying it. Markdown has no overarching formal standard and exists in multiple dialects which are not always compatible with each other.
On the gripping hand, HTML involves more keystrokes (and technically speaking you need to include a bit of boilerplate in the file for it to be proper HTML). So it depends on whether you're willing to do a bit more typing to make sure that no one can possibly confuse your italics with boldface.
Tags interfere with human readability. Open any markdown file with a text editor in plain text and you can basically read the whole thing as it was intended to be read, with possibly the exception of tables.
There's a time and a place for different things, but I like markdown for human readable source text. HTML might be standardized enough that you can do a lot more with it, but the source file itself generally isn't as readable.
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That website was the fastest loading website I’ve ever visited.
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What do you mainly use that supports tables?
I use obsidian. It have been pretty happy with it's table support lately. It used to be much worse.
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And the official Obsidian Web Clipper does just that. It saves the content to your vault as a markdown note.
As far as I can tell this is a desktop plugin. On mobile it only brings across the plain text.
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Interesting stuff, but my main takeaway is that very little of my output is worth keeping! (Who's going to need out-of-context Star Trek shitposts in 20 years?)
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That website was the fastest loading website I’ve ever visited.
That thing loaded before I even click the link.
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No print it, everything digital needs a fairly complex machinery to work.
Do both and use the digital copy to print a new physical copy every x years.
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Man alive, all that time I wasted learning LaTeX in that case. Supports tables properly, "floats" pictures and figures about without messing up the flow of text, exceptional support for equations, beautiful printed output...
Suffers from a completely insane macro-writing language, and its markup is more intrusive in the text than markdown's is. Also, if you have very specific formatting output requirements (for a receiving publication, for instance) then it can be somewhat painful to whip into shape. Plain-text gang forever, though.
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That website was the fastest loading website I’ve ever visited.
I felt like I was back in the 2000s when I first got cable internet, but before ads took over everything.
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That website was the fastest loading website I’ve ever visited.
You made me click the link out of pure skepticism. You were not exaggerating.
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Ugh tables are really the killer. If my editor doesn't support tables then I avoid them like the plague.
org-mode
I don't use it though. I tried and forgot
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That website was the fastest loading website I’ve ever visited.
You will probably be a fan of https://kagi.com, then. I know it’s what I first noticed and what stood out to me a couple years back…