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Your Android Phones Aren’t ‘Google’ Anymore, They’re All ‘Gemini’

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  • S [email protected]

    It's a reasonable stopgap until Linux smartphones are ready. I don't need much, just regular phone features (phone, SMS/MMS, data, etc), decent battery life, and decent audio. Give me that and I'll ditch my Pixel.

    And honestly, I could probably switch today if forced.

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    stopgap until Linux smartphones are ready.

    Got a time machine? You can go back to when we had a Linux smartphone.

    ...because we already had one.

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      stopgap until Linux smartphones are ready.

      Got a time machine? You can go back to when we had a Linux smartphone.

      ...because we already had one.

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      Which? Open moko?

      Every modern "Linux smartphone" I see has fundamental issues, like:

      • incomplete MMS support
      • crap audio
      • unreliable wake from sleep for calls and texts
      • crap battery life

      I just want basic phone things to work well.

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      • random_character_a@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        If I had know the level of shit from google when I retired my previous 8 year old phone, I would have picked degoogled version of Fairphone.

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        That is what I have! And loving it. Admittedly the Fairphone 3 was quite slow and annoying when I got it, but with LineageOS and some changed settings I've actually never had a better phone, or felt better about my phone.

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        • T [email protected]

          I've never gotten 'Hey Google" to work properly when the phone is locked. And my phone is always locked except when I'm already using it, in which case it's just easier and less awkward to hold down the activation button.

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          It's funny because I remember early on devices like the OG Moto X had mid-tier specs but they made sure the OK Google worked with screen off. That was like 10 years ago now wtf

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            Gemini auf die Eier

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              Gemini auf die Eier

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              Brilliant!

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                Gemini auf die Eier

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                My life for Eier.

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                • T [email protected]

                  I’m ready for Linux Phone. No more of this big tech bullshit.

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                  Yes, please this. Current phones like the PinePhone just need a bit of polish and then I'm ready to go.

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                    I don't think I've found a single use for Gemini it either refuses any questions I ask or just can't do the task. I think everytime I've tried something I've resorted to using a different llm. Google has really lost its tech edge imo.

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                    • teknikal@eviltoast.orgT [email protected]

                      I don't think I've found a single use for Gemini it either refuses any questions I ask or just can't do the task. I think everytime I've tried something I've resorted to using a different llm. Google has really lost its tech edge imo.

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                      I only use Google Assistant to set timers and alarms. I tried it on Gemini and it said it couldn't do that.

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                      • J [email protected]

                        I don't see Linux phones being viable for the average person for a long time

                        Which is really so sad isn't it? The whole thing is so modular it would really just take one dev team a few months to at least get the ball rolling if they had the investment but... It's just not instantly profitable enough for anyone to bother putting the initial money in

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                        Well the thing is, for it to be viable for the average person it would need to be able to suit a lot of different use cases. A lot of systems and infrastructure would need to be built up as well, likely to the point where it starts to resemble currently available typical phone OSs. There would need to be consistency and some amount of stability in terms of APIs and such for app developers to use. Having fragmentation of the ecosystem (different distros), with low level differences (compared to just a manufacturer or carrier skin+apps), means that it will be more difficult for app developers to target all platforms.

                        So to some extent, I guess it is partly due to a lack of momentum, however it is impossible to ignore the extent to which the Linux way of doing things is going to hinder adoption.

                        And don't forget that the Linux ecosystem has a habit of competing against itself for the little marketshare it does have. The fragmentation of the ecosystem also leads to work being done many times over for each distro. It makes it very hard for Linux to catch up and keep pace with the likes of Android and IOS.

                        I am not hating on Linux by any means, just being realistic about the situation.

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                        • S [email protected]

                          My life for Eier.

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                          Wie viel kosten die Eier?

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Yes, please this. Current phones like the PinePhone just need a bit of polish and then I'm ready to go.

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                            The thing is, how do we bring that about?

                            I'm not sure Pine64 has a goal of bringing a product to retail readiness; the PinePhone was getting there, then they released the PinePhone Pro which broke a lot of the work done...

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                              The thing is, how do we bring that about?

                              I'm not sure Pine64 has a goal of bringing a product to retail readiness; the PinePhone was getting there, then they released the PinePhone Pro which broke a lot of the work done...

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                              Idk. I don't have the expertise to do low level work like battery tuning or fixing audio with any kind of efficiency, but once that work is done, I'd like to help get apps ported/created.

                              I'm not sure who to throw money at or whatever.

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                                I don't think I've found a single use for Gemini it either refuses any questions I ask or just can't do the task. I think everytime I've tried something I've resorted to using a different llm. Google has really lost its tech edge imo.

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                                I recently used Gemini just for fun, to help me find an old Android game that's not on Google Play anymore. It was literally useless even though I described the game with a lot of details.

                                DuckDuckGo'd some details and 10 seconds later I was playing the game.

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                                  Come on AI bubble burst already

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                                    I don't think I've found a single use for Gemini it either refuses any questions I ask or just can't do the task. I think everytime I've tried something I've resorted to using a different llm. Google has really lost its tech edge imo.

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                                    I asked it a question about PETG settings for a 3d printer and it told me to RTFM, but way wordier

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                                    • T [email protected]

                                      The way things seem to be going these days, they'd rather have your compliance.

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                                      They can have my ass.

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                                        I don't think I've found a single use for Gemini it either refuses any questions I ask or just can't do the task. I think everytime I've tried something I've resorted to using a different llm. Google has really lost its tech edge imo.

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                                        The best features of my phone are AI... in that they are already installed and now called something new. Google on tap is now some AI bullshit.

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                                          I’m ready for Linux Phone. No more of this big tech bullshit.

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                                          Its never coming to mass market in a user friendly package

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