Suggestions to switch a daily laptop to linux.
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is manjaro seriously that much easier than stock arch installed via archinstall?
I haven't used Arch Linux in years so I haven't tried out their installer.
Manjaro doesn't require using the command line at all to install, so if Arch Linux can match that then it's probably at least as good.
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No, but if you want an easy arch install EndeavourOS is much more reputable.
Reputable meaning you'll get brownie points from "people" on the internet who can't make decisions for themselves and don't want you to, either.
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I've been using this hp gaming laptop with win10 since 2 years ago with an old dumb LG screen for coding/emulate (35%) or gaming (25%) and other 40% without the 2nd screen (browsing/documents).
I've used fedora/red hat in university but it was almost 10 years ago for specific software (emu/simulators) so I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.
I've read some posts before about out of the box distros (because the nvidia gtx 1650ti mainly) but I'm not sure if I should go for bazzite or cachyos or opensuse tumbleweed or a better distro that fits great in my case and about desktop, KDE (plasma) is my choice at the moment.
Thanks in advance.
Fedora seems favourite as you've used it. There's a new version due toward the end of March so you may want to hang on, to avoid legacy stuff being upgraded. Maybe they'll remove the x11 drivers.
There's also the inst.sdboot install flag to avoid the legacy grub install.
I don't find the install very easy to understand, compared to things like Debian but it's worth the fiddle.
ArchLinux is the other alternative.
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Fedora seems favourite as you've used it. There's a new version due toward the end of March so you may want to hang on, to avoid legacy stuff being upgraded. Maybe they'll remove the x11 drivers.
There's also the inst.sdboot install flag to avoid the legacy grub install.
I don't find the install very easy to understand, compared to things like Debian but it's worth the fiddle.
ArchLinux is the other alternative.
I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.
ArchLinux is the other alternative.
Never change internet. Never change.
OP, don't go with the hype, don't go arch Linux as your first distro, you can change later to it when you get more comfortable.
PS: I don't think that matters but just in case, I am use arch for at least 12 years already as my only OS (except work computer) and I find it wild that sp many people recommends arch Linux for beginners. I can only guess how many people get burn and give up on Linux because of it.
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I've been using this hp gaming laptop with win10 since 2 years ago with an old dumb LG screen for coding/emulate (35%) or gaming (25%) and other 40% without the 2nd screen (browsing/documents).
I've used fedora/red hat in university but it was almost 10 years ago for specific software (emu/simulators) so I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.
I've read some posts before about out of the box distros (because the nvidia gtx 1650ti mainly) but I'm not sure if I should go for bazzite or cachyos or opensuse tumbleweed or a better distro that fits great in my case and about desktop, KDE (plasma) is my choice at the moment.
Thanks in advance.
I’m using stock fedora gnome on my surface pro 3 from 2014/5? and it works very well.
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Since you only mentioned 25% gaming, I'd recommend against a gaming-centric distro like Bazzite. Instead, use a generalist desktop distro.
Since you mentioned that you're rather new-ish, I'd recommend against Arch-based distros like CachyOS. Instead, check out e.g. Fedora, Mint, OpenSuSE. (Probably in that order of priority)
These aren't hard recommendations, so you can do whatever and probably be fine either way, but it still doesn't fit that well.
Exactly. I'm being downvoted for saying the same thing
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I've been using this hp gaming laptop with win10 since 2 years ago with an old dumb LG screen for coding/emulate (35%) or gaming (25%) and other 40% without the 2nd screen (browsing/documents).
I've used fedora/red hat in university but it was almost 10 years ago for specific software (emu/simulators) so I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.
I've read some posts before about out of the box distros (because the nvidia gtx 1650ti mainly) but I'm not sure if I should go for bazzite or cachyos or opensuse tumbleweed or a better distro that fits great in my case and about desktop, KDE (plasma) is my choice at the moment.
Thanks in advance.
Personally I'd recommend Linux Mint, as your likely to have a very positive experience with it.
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That was a secondary point to just ignoring the "gaming" distros, but this thread alone has a bunch of people pushing Bazzite because someone simply said the word "gaming", and not recognize the majority of what OP said he would be doing is not gaming.
Immutable distros are a PITA for coders for a number of different reasons, so should not be recommended simply because of that. They have no benefits to workflow, only extra overhead to the other work OP is asking about,.who even said they are largely unfamiliar with anything except older releases. Suggesting they jump right into the fire with an immutable distro is bad advice.
Legitimately if you're a programmer and you think using a container is a pain in the ass, you should stop programming.
Source: 20 plus years software engineer, if I didn't have containers I would go ahead and hurry along my retirement.
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The only thing is that there’s not a lot of distro-specific guidance out there
I'm genuinely curious to hear what's missing here.
Our documentation guy cooked so hard he got burnt out, please read them they're excellent.
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Legitimately if you're a programmer and you think using a container is a pain in the ass, you should stop programming.
Source: 20 plus years software engineer, if I didn't have containers I would go ahead and hurry along my retirement.
Using a container isn't the issue. I'm an upstream developer on containerd and I just don't want to have to think about it. It's a needless hurdle. Containers have their place, and it's not for the desktop and doing desktop things.
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Using a container isn't the issue. I'm an upstream developer on containerd and I just don't want to have to think about it. It's a needless hurdle. Containers have their place, and it's not for the desktop and doing desktop things.
Let's agree to disagree. I think it's the single best thing to come to the desktop in the last decade and using containers as build environments has made my workflow immensely better.
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Let's agree to disagree. I think it's the single best thing to come to the desktop in the last decade and using containers as build environments has made my workflow immensely better.
We don't even need to do that. Go and ask on any public FOSS project mailing list and see who is running immutable. Not many.
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I've been using this hp gaming laptop with win10 since 2 years ago with an old dumb LG screen for coding/emulate (35%) or gaming (25%) and other 40% without the 2nd screen (browsing/documents).
I've used fedora/red hat in university but it was almost 10 years ago for specific software (emu/simulators) so I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.
I've read some posts before about out of the box distros (because the nvidia gtx 1650ti mainly) but I'm not sure if I should go for bazzite or cachyos or opensuse tumbleweed or a better distro that fits great in my case and about desktop, KDE (plasma) is my choice at the moment.
Thanks in advance.
You mentioned KDE as your preferred DE so I'd suggest the Fedora KDE spin. The Fedora team has been putting a lot of work into it lately and it's supposedly going to be upgraded to equal footing with gnome in the next Fedora release.
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Using a container isn't the issue. I'm an upstream developer on containerd and I just don't want to have to think about it. It's a needless hurdle. Containers have their place, and it's not for the desktop and doing desktop things.
Heya! I'm one of the ublue maintainers. I run the Project Pavilion at KubeCon, any chance you're going? I love to talk about this stuff in real life! Our project is based on bootc, which is going into sandbox into the CNCF, so there's lots of stuff to talk about!
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I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.
ArchLinux is the other alternative.
Never change internet. Never change.
OP, don't go with the hype, don't go arch Linux as your first distro, you can change later to it when you get more comfortable.
PS: I don't think that matters but just in case, I am use arch for at least 12 years already as my only OS (except work computer) and I find it wild that sp many people recommends arch Linux for beginners. I can only guess how many people get burn and give up on Linux because of it.
Upvoted with caveats
I choose clean OSs with minimal additional code and settings added by distro maintainers. Fedora is fairly good. ArchLinux is excellent.
ArchLinux actually makes quite a good first distro if you're willing to learn GNU/Linux. If you grew up with the early non-NT (DOS) Windows then you're more than used to trying to squeeze the most out of Windows by learning how it works. That was a long time ago now.
I moved from Windows to Linux just after the turn of the century because Microsoft were making it more difficult to use your own OS on your own machine.
After Fedora Core 4+ I ended up using ArchLinux for the longest time. It's early adoption of systemd was a factor, as was the rolling nature.
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Heya! I'm one of the ublue maintainers. I run the Project Pavilion at KubeCon, any chance you're going? I love to talk about this stuff in real life! Our project is based on bootc, which is going into sandbox into the CNCF, so there's lots of stuff to talk about!
Hey, Jorge. We know each other I think
I'll ping you off here.
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I have Bazzite on a gaming laptop from 2015, and it's been great.
For something non-atomic, Nobara or PikaOS might be good choices.
I have Bazzite on my steam deck and Bluefin on my laptop and have been very happy with them. The atomic part is great for not messing things up as a noon, but if OP does decide to dual boot then these distros won't be the best choice as they don't play well with other distros.
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Since you only mentioned 25% gaming, I'd recommend against a gaming-centric distro like Bazzite. Instead, use a generalist desktop distro.
Since you mentioned that you're rather new-ish, I'd recommend against Arch-based distros like CachyOS. Instead, check out e.g. Fedora, Mint, OpenSuSE. (Probably in that order of priority)
These aren't hard recommendations, so you can do whatever and probably be fine either way, but it still doesn't fit that well.
Why not bazzite? It's just kinoite with some extra stuff installed, some of which is very nice (patent things that make twitch work for example)
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I have Bazzite on my steam deck and Bluefin on my laptop and have been very happy with them. The atomic part is great for not messing things up as a noon, but if OP does decide to dual boot then these distros won't be the best choice as they don't play well with other distros.
Same here, since I have found those immutable fedora based distros I never looked back, no more distro hoping. I am gaming with bluefin with an NVIDIA GPU and it is just good.
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I've been using this hp gaming laptop with win10 since 2 years ago with an old dumb LG screen for coding/emulate (35%) or gaming (25%) and other 40% without the 2nd screen (browsing/documents).
I've used fedora/red hat in university but it was almost 10 years ago for specific software (emu/simulators) so I'm kind of noob in general terms and I'm afraid I'll be leaving dual boot just in case.
I've read some posts before about out of the box distros (because the nvidia gtx 1650ti mainly) but I'm not sure if I should go for bazzite or cachyos or opensuse tumbleweed or a better distro that fits great in my case and about desktop, KDE (plasma) is my choice at the moment.
Thanks in advance.
I would suggest Debian. Rock solid and it usually has all you need. If you need newer software on it you can allways use backports and there is also a really cool project called distroboc that will let you run pretty much any application in a container.
