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    You can compare the WPT test results of many different browsers here. Its surprising to me that Servo lags behind Ladybird in successfully passed WPT tests.

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      Transphobic main dev ruined the project for me

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      Looks like a confused Swedish dude that when questioned about his use of English pronouns defaults to not wanting to get political. Is there more besides a misguided decision to avoid relevant political topics?

      I think we should chastise people that insist on not getting political, but not necessarily boycott everything they do. Or at least we should apply the same moral demands to Mozilla, Apple, Microsoft or Google when choosing which browsers to support. Which of them is the least bad?

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        I've been testing it out, it's pretty fucking rad.

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          What is this blog, it reads like a right wing child’s ramblings

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          Because it is. A quote from the linked page on asahi linux devs leaving twitter because of rising anti trans rhetoric

          “"Half of us are trans," he says. Accompanied by a call to "fight back" against an imagined "genocide", assumedly perpetrated by those who do not fully buy into his particular sexual fetish.”

          The blogs author purposely misgenders Alyssa Rosensweig and refers to being trans as a sexual fetish, which makes their politics obscenely clear. Further, Alyssa has a resume of amazing accomplishments in reverse engineering the apple m1 and m2 chips and developing graphics drivers for their gpus. Lundukes resume is basically growing up as a nerd and being a “tech blogger” from early in the game and going full qanon a few years ago

          Further in the article he references hector Martin saying that people demanding to keep politics out of tech is bullshit because tech is made by humans and anti trans rhetoric is going to kill his colleagues. His response to this:

          “Of course nobody is trying to kill Hector's colleagues.

          And the vast majority of major corporations -- not to mention the President of the country -- are continually coming out in support of the Trans fetish. So declaring that there is a genocide occuring is beyond ridiculous.”

          So that didn’t age well (from less than 2 years ago)

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            So keen for this.

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            • douglasg14b@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

              Hell, even worse, crying in the lost information. Discord is a black hole where community knowledge goes to die.

              It's the worst.

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              I hate it so much, even when I NEED to go there for help and support, I know I'm lonely the tenth person to ask the same question. I honestly don't know why so many people love this way of support, just document it!

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                The Discord-based "support" makes it a "meh." The main devs alt-right BS makes it a "hard pass."

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                  Currently there are 3 browsers available and of them is only available on overpriced disposable hardware.

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                  If the latter is Safari, then WebKit-based browsers are available for Windows and Unix-likes too.

                  Actually WebKit is often used in the same role Gecko would be used, until Mozilla decided they don't want alternative browsers on Gecko.

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                    What's the worst - Discord doesn't seem to provide any particular convenience over Mumble for voice calls while playing games or anything else. Just being in one app in one place is its advantage.

                    It's like Telegram, just better quality, worse optimization, more moderation.

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                      What is this blog, it reads like a right wing child’s ramblings

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                      I don’t know. But rather than just accepting the assertion, I did a cursory search. This turned up and I perused it. I didn’t see anything damning and thought maybe somebody could clarify. I am absolutely not trying to defend anybody, but I didn’t spend much time on it. Sorry folks.

                      Maybe he is a bad guy. Truly, I didn’t know.

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                        Lunduke is an alt-right shithead.

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                        My mistake. I didn’t look far enough into it. But the accusation was made without context so I didn’t know. I’m not trying to defend him.

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                          The Discord-based "support" makes it a "meh." The main devs alt-right BS makes it a "hard pass."

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                          Lemmy was created by a tankie, many of whom's opinions I abhor.

                          As long as it's FOSS and doesn't inherently promote their beliefs, I will use the software.

                          I agree it's not great and I'd prefer if it weren't made by imbeciles

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                            My mistake. I didn’t look far enough into it. But the accusation was made without context so I didn’t know. I’m not trying to defend him.

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                            Stay vigilant. Content about "Political correctness gone mad!" is step one of the alt-right pipeline.

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                              If the latter is Safari, then WebKit-based browsers are available for Windows and Unix-likes too.

                              Actually WebKit is often used in the same role Gecko would be used, until Mozilla decided they don't want alternative browsers on Gecko.

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                              If the latter is Safari, then WebKit-based browsers are available for Windows and Unix-likes too.

                              Which are? Please list a few current ones that have reasonable backing and at least a mid-size community.

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                                To go along with the alt right stuff, one of their major donors is Shopify.

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                                  It was a niche story, I’ll have to dig through the GitHub issues. Basically someone tried to change the documentation pronouns to be gender neutral rather than masculine and the lead dev had a freak out and refused. Really soured me on the project

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                                  Someone else posted a writeup about it.

                                  It wasn't in documentation, but a code comment. No user would see this.

                                  One part was a rejected change on the README, which was trying to remove this "white supremacist language":

                                  ## On ideologically motivated changes

                                  This is a purely technical project. As such, it is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics or religious beliefs. Any changes that appear ideologically motivated will be rejected.

                                  Someone changing "he" to "they" in a comment as their only change could absolutely be seen as "politically motivated." My understanding is that if changing the comment was part of some larger useful change, it would be fine (as would using "she" or "they" in a new comment), but just changing the gender of a pronoun in a comment is a useless change.

                                  If the comment said "she," would someone have been motivated to make this change? Probably not. Should changing this from "she" to some other pronoun (he or they) also be rejected? Yes, on the same grounds as changing it from "he," it's not a useful change and just wastes everyone's time. If you're in the code already, then go ahead, correct silly language like this if you care to.

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                                    I can't see anything about this on DuckDuckGo. Do you have a link?

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                                    “Don’t Be Evil” happily indexing while Bingcrosoft sleeps

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                                      Congratulations on completely misunderstanding the comic.

                                      Ladybird is not a new standard. It is a new implementation of existing standards. Nobody has to change or adapt anything.

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                                      It still has some of the same problems as the comic, though not to the same extent, it doesn't need to be a standard for the comic to make sense, it's also about market share. Having yet another browser has the potential of diluting the market and making people just go for the default.

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                                        Why always discord.... Why!!!!

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                                          https://mkultra.monster/tech/2024/07/03/serenityos-and-ladybird

                                          This was a little „write-up“ back when everything became more public.

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                                          I'm surprised this got any kind of attention.

                                          Here's the turn of events from my perspective:

                                          1. Someone submits a 1-line PR changing the gender used in a code comment
                                          2. PR rejected on the grounds that the change is "politically motivated"
                                          3. Submitter got mad, and proposed removing the rule against "politically motivated" changes
                                          4. Someone wrote a blog post about it

                                          Here's my analysis:

                                          1. Stupid change - don't make PRs that simply correct an irrelevant typo in a comment somewhere; some people do this to put stuff on a resume (look at how much FOSS work I do!), and it just wastes everyone's time
                                          2. Stupid response - it should've been rejected because it's a useless change, not because it's "politically motivated"
                                          3. Stupid proposal - do you really want to waste a bunch of time fighting over wording in a comment? Because that's the kind of crap you get without a rule like this.
                                          4. This is all about an irrelevant change to a comment? Why is this getting so much attention?
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