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Zelensky says he doesn't think he did anything wrong after public spat with Trump

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    Fat Donnie did this to make Zelenskyy look bad (LOL) and shame him into complying on the "art of the steal" by a bully.
    It was also a way to make a public excuse for not supporting Ukraine and siding with his actual employer, puny putin.

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      Narrator: he didn't.

      Trump managed to find a way to make me even more embarrassed for our country and angry at his douchebagness.

      Zelenskyy has the strength Private Bonespurs will never possess.

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      Can I upvote you 1000 times?

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        Fat Donnie did this to make Zelenskyy look bad (LOL) and shame him into complying on the "art of the steal" by a bully.
        It was also a way to make a public excuse for not supporting Ukraine and siding with his actual employer, puny putin.

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        Imagine if Reagan could have lived long enough to see a republican steal his "make america great again" slogan, turn it into a cult, and then use that cult to be submissive to russia.

        Takes a real shitbag to make Reagan look like the better option.

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          Imagine if Reagan could have lived long enough to see a republican steal his "make america great again" slogan, turn it into a cult, and then use that cult to be submissive to russia.

          Takes a real shitbag to make Reagan look like the better option.

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          And I never thought I would se a President dumber than W. But the orange cancer sure blew that one away by 10,000,000 miles.

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            Technically he's the first one to say something clearly out of protocol (of course Trump and Vance said a lot of irritating things), but countries don't break alliances over such things, and they've had a lot of time to discuss something without cameras, so it's simply a prepared scene.

            I just don't know what's this supposed to illustrate. If it's a scene by Trump&Vance to "justify" drying out of military support, then why would Zelensky participate in it. If it's a scene by Zelensky, then what in the world would he gain by it. If it's a mutually agreed scene, then, again, see previous.

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              the squishy stinky diaper was offering nothing. not a fucking god damn thing other than future betrayal...

              a betrayal you know is coming, one that krasnov's been setting up for years now, and one that will forever tarnish relations between the u.s. and its long-time allies everywhere.

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              krasnov

              Just in case, "red" as in hair color is "рыжий" in Russian, so it would be Ryzhov.

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                Narrator: he didn't.

                Trump managed to find a way to make me even more embarrassed for our country and angry at his douchebagness.

                Zelenskyy has the strength Private Bonespurs will never possess.

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                I saw that Pz Zelenskyy also thanked America for hosting him, as if he'd been calmly met by a proper head of state.

                It takes a special kind of statesman to be blindsided by two half-wit kids and harangued on TV and then treat it as if it was business as usual.

                Remember that Pz Zelenskyy is not your typical politician: he's a comedian who won the seat. How is it that this Everyman is more a leader and a collaborator, and those two are clowns out of the slow car?

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                  Technically he's the first one to say something clearly out of protocol (of course Trump and Vance said a lot of irritating things), but countries don't break alliances over such things, and they've had a lot of time to discuss something without cameras, so it's simply a prepared scene.

                  I just don't know what's this supposed to illustrate. If it's a scene by Trump&Vance to "justify" drying out of military support, then why would Zelensky participate in it. If it's a scene by Zelensky, then what in the world would he gain by it. If it's a mutually agreed scene, then, again, see previous.

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                  If it’s a scene by Trump&Vance to “justify” drying out of military support, then why would Zelensky participate in it.

                  Zelensky is interested in public support.

                  There doesn't even have to be an agenda. It's a press meeting as a conclusion to talks. As elected leaders and/or representatives it makes sense to participate.

                  If he wouldn't have participated, how would that be better? They could still justify it - in even more of a vacuum to define their own views and spins. It would be worse.

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                    Flying to Washington instead of Moscow was a mistake.

                    he’s got a bit heart, and an impossible job, but he’s been naive.

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                      He did nothing wrong. Trump and Vance were the ones who threw a tantrum because zelensky didn't immediately agree to their plan.

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                        So all the European leaders are saying they stand with Ukraine. However that's nothing but "thoughts and prayers" until they bloody do something. Get some boots on the ground or planes in the air. Do something!

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                          If it’s a scene by Trump&Vance to “justify” drying out of military support, then why would Zelensky participate in it.

                          Zelensky is interested in public support.

                          There doesn't even have to be an agenda. It's a press meeting as a conclusion to talks. As elected leaders and/or representatives it makes sense to participate.

                          If he wouldn't have participated, how would that be better? They could still justify it - in even more of a vacuum to define their own views and spins. It would be worse.

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                          I meant being rude too.

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                            So all the European leaders are saying they stand with Ukraine. However that's nothing but "thoughts and prayers" until they bloody do something. Get some boots on the ground or planes in the air. Do something!

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                            The European Leaders are just worse at marketing themselves, but they are doing considerably more

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                              And I never thought I would se a President dumber than W. But the orange cancer sure blew that one away by 10,000,000 miles.

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                              W. was certainly not the brightest bulb and unfortunately easily swayed by truly evil people around him (like Cheney), but I think as a president he always did what he thought was best for the country and its people. Trump only ever does what he thinks is best for himself.

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                                W. was certainly not the brightest bulb and unfortunately easily swayed by truly evil people around him (like Cheney), but I think as a president he always did what he thought was best for the country and its people. Trump only ever does what he thinks is best for himself.

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                                Why the hell do liberals rehabilitate Bush like this? He invaded sovereign countries and began a 20 year long occupation, hundreds of thousands were killed in his wars, he also stripped away out civil liberties and conducted mass surveillance, indefinite detention without trial, and torture.

                                "Always did what he thought was best for the people" what an absolute load of horseshit. I guess it just so happened that what he thought was best was to ship people off to kill and be killed while he and his buddies got rich off it.

                                Like goddamn, what do I gotta do to get people carrying water for me like that? "Yeah I robbed a convenience store at gunpoint, which was bad, but you have to acknowledge that I was doing what I believed was best for the American people. It's not my fault, it's just all the people I chose to surround myself with who led me to do it." Where is your hate? You should want that motherfucker to hang!

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                                  W. was certainly not the brightest bulb and unfortunately easily swayed by truly evil people around him (like Cheney), but I think as a president he always did what he thought was best for the country and its people. Trump only ever does what he thinks is best for himself.

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                                  Nah he started the Iraq invasion because dubya has daddy issues and do what his father refused to do. Fuck outta here with “he did what he thought was best for the country”

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                                    Why the hell do liberals rehabilitate Bush like this? He invaded sovereign countries and began a 20 year long occupation, hundreds of thousands were killed in his wars, he also stripped away out civil liberties and conducted mass surveillance, indefinite detention without trial, and torture.

                                    "Always did what he thought was best for the people" what an absolute load of horseshit. I guess it just so happened that what he thought was best was to ship people off to kill and be killed while he and his buddies got rich off it.

                                    Like goddamn, what do I gotta do to get people carrying water for me like that? "Yeah I robbed a convenience store at gunpoint, which was bad, but you have to acknowledge that I was doing what I believed was best for the American people. It's not my fault, it's just all the people I chose to surround myself with who led me to do it." Where is your hate? You should want that motherfucker to hang!

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                                    I can always summarize my take on GW with that one time they ran a TV ad on how they added 2 new democracies to the olympic roster (I saw this fucking BS on CNN Europe live cca 2004 and it managed to make me fume even as a fairly apolitical young adult who then lived outside the US):

                                    Besides getting a huge whipping from the International Olympic Committee for using the Olympics for political ads being illegal (so incredibly on brand) this also aged like milk.

                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrE0eeQJEns

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                                      Flying to Washington instead of Moscow was a mistake.

                                      he’s got a bit heart, and an impossible job, but he’s been naive.

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                                      I'm sure you're a Russian troll but if the wartime leader of Ukraine flew to Moscow right now he'd not even make it to the Kremlin before dissappearing. Europe would then condemn Russia for its actions (similar to when the Saudis made that journalist dissappear) and Ukraine would be in a ton of shit.

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                                        He stood up to American traitors better than any American ever did.

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                                        There was one. He was 18 or 19. Over the summer.

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                                          I can always summarize my take on GW with that one time they ran a TV ad on how they added 2 new democracies to the olympic roster (I saw this fucking BS on CNN Europe live cca 2004 and it managed to make me fume even as a fairly apolitical young adult who then lived outside the US):

                                          Besides getting a huge whipping from the International Olympic Committee for using the Olympics for political ads being illegal (so incredibly on brand) this also aged like milk.

                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrE0eeQJEns

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                                          Holy shit, I never saw that. If I hadn't lived through it I'd think that ad was a parody. The fucking smugness of it, I stg, Bush makes me hope Hell is real.

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