Firefox deletes promise to never sell personal data, asks users not to panic
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It makes me sad because I'm a donator and supporter to Mozilla - and have been for years. I truly believe the web should be open, free, and not for profit and there are great people at Mozilla which is why I hate seeing the leadership do things like this. I wish there was an active group that shared the same ideals, were ethical, and not full of transphobes and cryptobros that could take up the mantle and fund another fork like Librewolf.
Preferably would love that any group be a collective not a corporation.
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Any of the Firefox forks. This is Mozilla not Firefox that is making these decisions.
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I wonder how much this affects things if you’ve already gone through Firefox’s settings to max out privacy and turn off all telemetry.
I resisted switching to Librewolf because Firefox works great (including M365 in Linux at work) and seemed to have the options you’d want for privacy and security.
This doesn’t feel like an emergency, especially in a chrome/edge dominated world. But it’s back on the list of things to investigate transitioning away from.
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I don't get your point, are you saying that using LibreWolf will still send your personal data to Mozilla? A privacy hardened config should be enough to disable all data collection, unless there's some kind of hidden telemetry in Firefox. That'd be hard to hide considering the open source nature of Firefox.
Also, looking at the source repo, it seems like LibreWolf is not just a config file, it's also a bunch of patches to the source code, plus they do build from source and publish their own binaries. So if Mozilla does try to sneak telemetry in, the LibreWolf maintainers are well positioned to patch it out.
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https://thehackernews.com/2025/03/mozilla-updates-firefox-terms-again.html?m=1
Apparently they changed it due to backlash.
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Sex, gender, sexual orientation, skin colour are red herrings used to distract the people from the fact they have a boot on their neck. The replies to my comment are yet another evidence people are OK licking the boot as long as the party is "insert preference here".
The problem is not particular to any of the aforementioned classes, the problem is the incentive structure is broken and the fiduciary duty is enshrined in law rather than good governance and long term sustainability. Firefox is just another evidence that cheerleading for a CEO because of intrinsic characteristics is a folly. -
Also the fact that he's a rabid homophobe and transphobe.
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If you're going to a Chromium browser, at least go to Vivaldi since it's a) based on Chromium not Chrome and b) not based in the US.
The only bad thing it has going for it is that it uses the Chrome web store for extensions.
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I didn't know that, but tbh not surprising. Dotcom-era tech bro billionaires are all the same.
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Do you know what impact this would have on extensions though? Would extensions developed for current Firefox versions work securely in Pale Moon?
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Yeah he was a big donator to California's prop 8, which tried to ban gay marriage - it's one of the reasons he stepped down from Mozilla.
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Glad they clarified. To me the "selling data being defined broadly" argument made sense in the context of Google paying them to be included as a search provider. Because there is an argument that Google paying Firefox, and then the user entering a search and that being sent to Google's servers could be legally seen as Mozilla selling data to Google.
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VIvaldi is cool, but its not open source. If you worry about the trustworthiness of you browser, picking an open source one would be best IMO. Among the chromium-based, there are chromium itself, brave, ...
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I'm in a doomer mindset.
We will wait and see.
I was around at the start of librewolf, came from what is now arkenfox.
I had to discover numerous (new) prefs these projects didn't cover, which were later added to them.
They are great efforts, don't get me wrong.
Even if the problem were just prefs, catching up to firefox development takes people's free time. Librewolf doesn't even handle (much) code. -
Google really needs to be broken up. They've become the Ma Bell of the internet.
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Whatever the 2006-2007 days were.
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Ahhh that makes sense hahaha.
The issues I was running into I’m SURE stemmed from having a bloated profile, so I could have fixed them by clearing my profile out, or reinstalling (probably.) video on my partner’s computer (our main entertainment machine) would only play in Private Mode for some reason. Hanime wouldn’t play anything at all, the site was bugged out. Many pages displayed super weird on their machine, too. My computer had some video playing issues but I didn’t run into pages displaying strangely.
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Yep. It stinks. We'll see if it was just a fart and it'll go away or if they crapped and we'll have to jump ship.
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Maybe we should all throw some kind of support behind https://ladybird.org/ with an eye to the future.
That project isn’t problematic for some reason I haven’t heard about, is it?
(Problematic other than web browsers being gigantic pieces of software, and ladybrid itself not even being in alpha yet)
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So sad. I have used Firefox since 2006. Today I removed it for good from all of my devices. So long old friend. I cant wait for Ladybird to release.
