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Which browser do you use and why?

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    People that complain on little tiny thing

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    Chrome is proprietary

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      Ungoogled chromium, sadly FF has been getting worse over the years (partially because it is getting worse and partially because web developers happen to ignore it's existence) also Chromium has superior security.

      I'm hopeful about the future of ladybird but it will take a long time until it is a possible daily driver.

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      Chromium has superior security

      I hadn't heard that before. Do you have a source that I can read up more on it?

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        Librewolf, it's Firefox but without the evil.

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        FF is evil now?

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          I use Firefox and Chrome as I am not a woke vegan

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          I use Firefox and I literally am a woke vegan.

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            I've been using Zen for the past couple days and it's absolutely spectacular. I really really been enjoying it.

            It claims to be a fork of Firefox but there's still Firefox under the hood and you can tell. But I find that it runs significantly faster than Firefox standard. So who knows. The author seems to be making it as ambiguous as possible so I would think that it's a soft fork that's basically stock Firefox with a few minor changes and a new look.

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            librewolf

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              Using firefox but concerned now

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              Waterfox is based on esr, so quite outdated. Just use librewolf and some css. You have firefox-one that will make it look pretty and similar to zen. Zen is no good if you care about privacy.

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                Ungoogled chromium, sadly FF has been getting worse over the years (partially because it is getting worse and partially because web developers happen to ignore it's existence) also Chromium has superior security.

                I'm hopeful about the future of ladybird but it will take a long time until it is a possible daily driver.

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                Fx* has been getting worse

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                  Brave, FOSS. Because it's the best one I have found for my use case.

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                  20 years with Fx*

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                    ...Brave is just chromium by techbros, right?

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                    cryptobros

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                      It is that software. https://www.passwordstore.org/
                      I still backup in an external dd but there are ways to store them online, like a git repository as instance.

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                      interesting, so you just back up your ~/.password-store directory? You use the same thing on Android or something else?/

                      I am using KeePass, it generates password and also TOTP. Works fine but I want to switch to something more Linuxy. Keepass is great but you really depend on a 3rd party.

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                        This is the only good critique in this entire thread (thank you) BUT librewolf is on the exact same version as Firefox. It appears their updates are pretty fast.

                        Would you have config recommendations beyond the obvious?

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                        I'm probably not the best person to talk to about Firefox hardening. Because... I don't. I only go as far as using firefox containers.

                        My threat model is to counter:-

                        • ISP data logging
                        • government filters
                        • region blocking
                        • hyper-personalised marketing

                        I use a VPN for the first three, and I use Ublock, and don't use google/meta/twitter/amazon/ebay for last.

                        I personally believe it is impossible to escape fingerprinting unless you're on Tor Browser, but using Tor paints you as a target in my country per the first item above.

                        I also work in financial services, and am a user of my company's product. We do significant 'device intelligence' and 'behavioral intelligence' on client devices, auth attempts, and actions taken in sessions. Log in too many times from too many different (seemingly) devices, user agents, IP addresses, regions, etc and it increases our customer risk assessment of you. Tick over a threshold and your account falls under enhanced customer due diligence. Tick over another threshold, and we'll set auto-blocks until we can investigate. I assume that any other financial services provider worth their salt would do the same to counter fraud, money laundering, and meeting sanctions.

                        I basically use a split tunnel VPN. VPN traffic for general browsing, email, etc. And looking as much as a regular user as possible when accessing financial services, government websites, etc.

                        And yeah, agree LibreWolf is great. Only downside for the average user is the lack of an auto-updater. So the only tweak i'd do with LibreWolf would be to set up a cron/systemd timer to update it nightly.

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                          Using firefox but concerned now

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                          Vivaldi because:

                          • built in ad and tracking blocker
                          • Clear, easy to understand privacy policy
                          • best UI customizability
                          • hibernates tabs
                          • clear and sensible business model
                          • not vc funded.
                          • webdav support for calendar syncing

                          If i had to choose something fully floss i would go with librewolf.

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                            Using firefox but concerned now

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                            I used to use variations of Firefox but I got tired of websites not being compatible so sometimes I use chrome 🤷

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                              Chromium has superior security

                              I hadn't heard that before. Do you have a source that I can read up more on it?

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                              https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing

                              https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/firefox-chromium.html

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                                Using firefox but concerned now

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                                Should we also be comparing rendering engines?

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                                  interesting, so you just back up your ~/.password-store directory? You use the same thing on Android or something else?/

                                  I am using KeePass, it generates password and also TOTP. Works fine but I want to switch to something more Linuxy. Keepass is great but you really depend on a 3rd party.

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                                  I m not experienced but this video shows a way to use pass.

                                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7t5M4FXqs9E&pp=ygUWZ2l0IHBsdXMgY29tbWFuZCBsaW5lIA%3D%3D

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                                    FF is evil now?

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                                    I fail to understand the question mark at the end of your sentence.

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                                    • kanedias@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

                                      Chrome is proprietary

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                                      Yes, this tiny

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                                        I fail to understand the question mark at the end of your sentence.

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                                        It's a casual English language construction of the 90s. It's equivalent to "FF is evil?" And implies that the writer believes that it didn't used to be.

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                                          Zen, absolutely love the workflow and the fact that it is not chromium based.

                                          Waiting excitedly for ladybird, it is already very impressive but still years left until it is daily drive able

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                                          Basically a firefox skin, although they have a VPN as a sponsor, did somebody did a thorough check on that browser?

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