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The first time I heard that many car manufacturers are getting rid of traditional odometers in favour of touchscreens, I already thought that it is dangerous.

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    As someone driving a 2009 Mazda 3 - I really appreciate the simple physical controls in the car. Touch screens are a horrible interface for something you could fiddle with an analog version and get feedback without taking your eyes off the road.

    Not saying they shouldn't exist, they can be helpful and useful for displaying information and navigation, hell even controlling the AC and radio and all that but there should also be a physical interface for basic functions.

    I know my next vehicle will be electric and I definitely will be swayed by the user interface for things. I do hope car companies are listening to everyone saying they don't want just touch screens and nothing else.

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    I honestly hate to use the central display to control the AC. In my newer car first you have to press a button on the screen to open the AC control, then you have to set what you want.

    On my old one I can do whatever I want without need to look off the road

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      I honestly hate to use the central display to control the AC. In my newer car first you have to press a button on the screen to open the AC control, then you have to set what you want.

      On my old one I can do whatever I want without need to look off the road

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      I have a 2019 mustang, and it's kind of a mixed bag. There are a bunch of controls for AC and head in physical controls, but there's also several you can't use without the screen (like dual zone temps, and niche things like that)

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        Digital is fine for things that don't need to be touched. Arguably, it's better.

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        Separate analog odometers are better, because it's a single point of failure otherwise. If one breaks, I can still read all other instruments (fuel, engine temp, speed and/or rpm, whichever failed)

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          Separate analog odometers are better, because it's a single point of failure otherwise. If one breaks, I can still read all other instruments (fuel, engine temp, speed and/or rpm, whichever failed)

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          I think the whole cluster can also fail all at once as well as the individual components, so it's actually more points of failure.

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            Separate analog odometers are better, because it's a single point of failure otherwise. If one breaks, I can still read all other instruments (fuel, engine temp, speed and/or rpm, whichever failed)

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            This.

            You work in software just a couple of years, you learn to appreciate the mechanical solutions on a whole other level. Especially in cars.

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              I think the whole cluster can also fail all at once as well as the individual components, so it's actually more points of failure.

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              I'm not sure what you mean.

              A single display that shows all controls as opposed to many "displays" per control. On top of that an odometer has less components than whatever translates the reading to an aggregated video output.

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                I'm not sure what you mean.

                A single display that shows all controls as opposed to many "displays" per control. On top of that an odometer has less components than whatever translates the reading to an aggregated video output.

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                I just mean that your odometer and your speedometer and everything else are part of the cluster which can entirely fail so everything shuts down, just like a single display can fail, so there's no inherent benefit to analog over digital. It's not just individual components they are all connected still and the entire thing can all shut off at once as well, which happened to me in my little 2005 Pontiac Sunfire.

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                  I just mean that your odometer and your speedometer and everything else are part of the cluster which can entirely fail so everything shuts down, just like a single display can fail, so there's no inherent benefit to analog over digital. It's not just individual components they are all connected still and the entire thing can all shut off at once as well, which happened to me in my little 2005 Pontiac Sunfire.

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                  I drive a 2005 Opel Astra and had the tachometer and speedometer fail on separate occasions while everything else on the dash kept working.

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                    I drive a 2005 Opel Astra and had the tachometer and speedometer fail on separate occasions while everything else on the dash kept working.

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                    Yes, they can fail individually as well as all together there are multiple points where it can fail at.

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                      Separate analog odometers are better, because it's a single point of failure otherwise. If one breaks, I can still read all other instruments (fuel, engine temp, speed and/or rpm, whichever failed)

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                      That's actually a good point. A lot of cars have both, now.

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