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    Any great app on Android for mastodon?

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    • gunpachi@lemmings.worldG [email protected]

      I hope more active users move to the fediverse. That way we will have a lot of variety in content and can also potentially prevent communities from becoming echo chambers. I suppose moderation will also have to be taken up a notch for these changes to actually have a positive effect.

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      Why moderation? The old internet didn't have moderation. Why does everyone feel the need for moderation?

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        Why moderation? The old internet didn't have moderation. Why does everyone feel the need for moderation?

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        The old internet was hidden behind dial-up modems and TCP-IP stacks and weird telnet and usenet protocols. This complexity worked as a filter and the people using it were mostly academics, students, techies and other nerds (me amongst them). The moment uncle Bob could poke his way through social media on his phone from the shitter, the whole thing cascaded into Eternal September and "the old internet" was lost forever.

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          Why moderation? The old internet didn't have moderation. Why does everyone feel the need for moderation?

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          Trolls, bots, and scammers make them necessary, at a minimum, and then the subliminal messaging from the cronies of politicians, etc. make them welcome. Bots are easier to make than ever before so you can't compare the past with the present that easily. kbin.social died last year because of relentless spam bots posting garbage/malware links 100x/sec.

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            I hope more active users move to the fediverse. That way we will have a lot of variety in content and can also potentially prevent communities from becoming echo chambers. I suppose moderation will also have to be taken up a notch for these changes to actually have a positive effect.

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            prevent communities from becoming echo chambers

            I suspect this will still become a problem since we can subscribe to whichever communities we like and vice versa.

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              Trolls, bots, and scammers make them necessary, at a minimum, and then the subliminal messaging from the cronies of politicians, etc. make them welcome. Bots are easier to make than ever before so you can't compare the past with the present that easily. kbin.social died last year because of relentless spam bots posting garbage/malware links 100x/sec.

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              Computer bots always act a certain predictable way. You can filter out most bots easily based on time-based filters or other algorithms. The rest should not be moderated, except for illegal things like selling weapons, drugs, or hiring a hitman.

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                Computer bots always act a certain predictable way. You can filter out most bots easily based on time-based filters or other algorithms. The rest should not be moderated, except for illegal things like selling weapons, drugs, or hiring a hitman.

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                That hasn’t been true for a long time. Filtering bots has increasingly become more difficult, expensive, and sophisticated. Not to mention that there are still plenty of state sponsored bad actors using real people and hybrid approaches.

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                  Computer bots always act a certain predictable way. You can filter out most bots easily based on time-based filters or other algorithms. The rest should not be moderated, except for illegal things like selling weapons, drugs, or hiring a hitman.

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                  And the extremism follow.

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                    Why moderation? The old internet didn't have moderation. Why does everyone feel the need for moderation?

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                    What? The old internet absolutely had moderation, even back in the day of BBS.

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                      I tried Bluesky for while but honestly I like Mastadon and Lemmy better. I'm also testing LOOPS (tiktok replacement) which is from the same creator as Pixelfed. There's something comforting using decentralized platforms that are safe from Government and Corporate intervention

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                      • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.comM [email protected]

                        Any great app on Android for mastodon?

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                        I use Tusky and am satisfied, maybe there are better apps idk

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                          prevent communities from becoming echo chambers

                          I suspect this will still become a problem since we can subscribe to whichever communities we like and vice versa.

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                          @Flagstaff @gunpachi I'm not sure echo chambers are inherently a bad thing. My real life is a carefully crafted echo chamber of people I like to spend time with (which conveniently includes my family). The problem comes when we get *all* our information from that echo chamber.

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                            prevent communities from becoming echo chambers

                            I suspect this will still become a problem since we can subscribe to whichever communities we like and vice versa.

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                            It is a feature, not a problem.

                            I have, like, this whole rich life offline. My curated list of instances and communities (plus my user block list) is just my entertainment and a small portion of my day.

                            You may not believe this but I have numerous thoughts, activities and interactions that never leave a trace online. I have no obligation to drink from the firehose that is being pumped from the septic tank of the human psyche.

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                              Any great app on Android for mastodon?

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                              I've been using Moshidon. One day I'll find an app as good as Ivory on iOS, but in the meantime Moshidon is fine.

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                                It is incredibly frustrating to see for example Ursula Von der Leyen preaching "EU STRONG" stuff on fucking shitter. Really? This is your way of showing how strong the EU is and we shouldn't or can't rely on USA? By posting your I'm strong message on the precise platform the US chief nazification officer owns? FFS.

                                If all EU governments together decide to ditch shitter and move to mastodon instances, media follows. It's a pretty cheap measure to implement, too.

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                                Hard agree! I do think fediverse platforms are perfect for public entities to disseminate information.

                                I’m US based so my example is say a county. They already have the IT infrastructure and staff. Make an instance for the county and a community for each department.

                                The road department can post road closures and upcoming traffic diversions. The parks department can promote events, etc.

                                These type of instances can just disable comments. They are read-only so moderation is not needed.

                                It’s trivial from a resource perspective and even easier than updating a website.

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                                  I tried Bluesky for while but honestly I like Mastadon and Lemmy better. I'm also testing LOOPS (tiktok replacement) which is from the same creator as Pixelfed. There's something comforting using decentralized platforms that are safe from Government and Corporate intervention

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                                  If only we had more content not related to "look we're free!", "look Linux is freedom", "free free free!", "MAGA bad, but we're independent and free!", it would be even more awesome (not a pun to your side, just a piece of frustration)

                                  Also, for those saying "create it yourself" - I do

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                                    I hope more active users move to the fediverse. That way we will have a lot of variety in content and can also potentially prevent communities from becoming echo chambers. I suppose moderation will also have to be taken up a notch for these changes to actually have a positive effect.

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                                    Also, more active users means more niche communities. I just realized there’s a Severance community that is medium active. One less thing I need Reddit for.

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                                      Also, more active users means more niche communities. I just realized there’s a Severance community that is medium active. One less thing I need Reddit for.

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                                      What! My outie loves Severance.

                                      I can’t locate this community using search on the term ‘severance’.

                                      Do you mind sharing the instance and community name?

                                      Praise Kier!

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                                        What! My outie loves Severance.

                                        I can’t locate this community using search on the term ‘severance’.

                                        Do you mind sharing the instance and community name?

                                        Praise Kier!

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                                        Come join the music/dance experience!

                                        https://lemmy.world/c/severance

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                                          Any great app on Android for mastodon?

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                                          fedilab ☞ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/fr.gouv.etalab.mastodon/

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