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Senior Conservative MP says UK must consider possibility ‘Trump is a Russian asset’ - Politics.co.uk

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  • A [email protected]

    Where? I did miss that

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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/russia-and-u-s-held-secret-talks-on-restarting-nord-stream-2-pipeline-bild/ar-AA1A8NMq

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    • garretble@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

      That's a good point.

      They want to help Russia but also line their pockets along the way.

      100%.

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      Afaiu, they don't give a hoot about Russia, they just see the US as "declining" and thus want the US to end as quickly as possible, so they can privatize the remains for their own benefit.

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      • tommasz@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

        As someone who grew up during the height of the Cold War, it's hard to describe how shocking a statement like this is. The US spent trillions of dollars to prevent something like this from happening to anyone in the government, to have the president compromised laughs in the face of all that.

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        Don't say they didn't warn you.

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          Keir Starmer has attempted to act as a bridge between the United States and Europe, having hosting a summit of nineteen leaders, including EU Commission president Ursula von der Leyen and Nato chief Mark Rutte, on Sunday.

          Addressing MPs yesterday, the prime minister insisted the UK government will not “choose between” the US and Europe, as it attempts to secure a lasting, sustainable peace in Ukraine.

          Starmer said: “I do want to be crystal clear. We must strengthen our relationship with America for our security, for our technology, for our trade and investment.”

          That all sounds very unwise. I hope that behind the scenes the UK Government is less deluded.

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          As a Brit I'd be surprised if they were that deluded, the more pertinent question to ask should be is the USA government that deluded?

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            https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/russia-and-u-s-held-secret-talks-on-restarting-nord-stream-2-pipeline-bild/ar-AA1A8NMq

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            Thank you

            In this way, according to the calculation, Americans would regulate the German gas tap and earn money at the same time,” Bild wrote, noting that the U.S. government itself would not be directly involved

            Grenell was an asshole meddling to much with German Politics as an ambassador back then, and I hope my Government will not participate in such a stupid deal where Energy Security is dependent on both Putlers and Musk's Goodwill

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            • F [email protected]

              Your sarcasm that appears to indicate Mr Stuart is one of the last to realize — it may be a little misplaced, given that Starmer and Labour have apparently not awoken yet.

              Also: happy cake day!

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              It's frustrating that maybe little by little someone is starting to consider this, after all Trump has done so far. But yes at least mr Stuart said it, I'm wrong.
              Everywhere there's a strong imvincible will to close eyes and hope that somehow the war will close itself doing minimum effort possible, and after that business as usual.
              No country take it seriously, unless it's too late. They're always one step behind. The smartest understood after a month or more of Trump's historical disasters.

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              • dasus@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                Don't say they didn't warn you.

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                History books are full of stuff like this - it just takes a long time of sustained effort, longer than a single generation.

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                  Possibility? Not with that attitude.

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                    Reagan is spinning in his grave.

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                    It was Reagan where things started going off the rails, ironically.

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                    • tommasz@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                      He'd just spin even faster knowing that.

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                      Infinite energy glitch

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                        Three separate former KGB agents all attest that he is indeed a Russian asset. They didn’t provide evidence, but I believe them.

                        https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5162890-assessing-new-allegations-that-trump-was-recruited-by-the-kgb/

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                        Interestingly, this page "has been denied". The rest of TheHill.com are accessible, but not that page. Can you actually access it? Which country are you in?

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                          No fucking shit! And it's the entire globe that needs the KY Jelly.

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                            Keir Starmer has attempted to act as a bridge between the United States and Europe, having hosting a summit of nineteen leaders, including EU Commission president Ursula von der Leyen and Nato chief Mark Rutte, on Sunday.

                            Addressing MPs yesterday, the prime minister insisted the UK government will not “choose between” the US and Europe, as it attempts to secure a lasting, sustainable peace in Ukraine.

                            Starmer said: “I do want to be crystal clear. We must strengthen our relationship with America for our security, for our technology, for our trade and investment.”

                            That all sounds very unwise. I hope that behind the scenes the UK Government is less deluded.

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                            The words don't match the whispers

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                              Uhhhhh ya...Krasonov. Haven't you been paying attention?

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                                Interestingly, this page "has been denied". The rest of TheHill.com are accessible, but not that page. Can you actually access it? Which country are you in?

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                                denied, from belgium

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                                  Keir Starmer has attempted to act as a bridge between the United States and Europe, having hosting a summit of nineteen leaders, including EU Commission president Ursula von der Leyen and Nato chief Mark Rutte, on Sunday.

                                  Addressing MPs yesterday, the prime minister insisted the UK government will not “choose between” the US and Europe, as it attempts to secure a lasting, sustainable peace in Ukraine.

                                  Starmer said: “I do want to be crystal clear. We must strengthen our relationship with America for our security, for our technology, for our trade and investment.”

                                  That all sounds very unwise. I hope that behind the scenes the UK Government is less deluded.

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                                  I suppose they try to buy some time, to get out of the mess that much of UK security info and equipment is closely dependent on US. But indeed at such a pivotal moment, when there even seems to be cross party consensus, it's daft to miss the chance to re-orient towards Europe.

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                                    #38

                                    Lol the "possibility"? Listen here, fuckwad... He is. That's coming from an American. Trump is 100% a Russian asset.

                                    Welcome to our hell. Stop relying on us until he's been removed from office.

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                                      Afaiu, they don't give a hoot about Russia, they just see the US as "declining" and thus want the US to end as quickly as possible, so they can privatize the remains for their own benefit.

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                                      Actually there's more to it than just their own benefit, and it's far more dangerous.

                                      It's about saving the world by destroying it. There is this strange movement called accelerationism, basically the idea that tiday's world is doomed and we should speed up it's destruction to trigger {the rapture,world revolution leading to communism,settling Mars,alien intervention}.

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                                      • lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.worksL [email protected]

                                        Lol the "possibility"? Listen here, fuckwad... He is. That's coming from an American. Trump is 100% a Russian asset.

                                        Welcome to our hell. Stop relying on us until he's been removed from office.

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                                        Just because he acts like it and you think he is doesn't mean he is a Russian asset. You need to back that kind of claim up.

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                                          Just because he acts like it and you think he is doesn't mean he is a Russian asset. You need to back that kind of claim up.

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                                          cause he acts like it and you think he is doesn’t mean he is a

                                          Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck,....

                                          Whether or not he is, stops mattering if everything he does can be understood and makes sense if he is.

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