Nobody Wants a Nazi Electric Car
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Everyone forgets where the German cars, Henry Ford, etc came from politically.
I was looking into my first EV, and politics just didn’t weigh that much into the decision. Now, the “infotainment as a perpetual service”, that turned me off and away from Tesla. With CarPlay my car dash will never lose service, and will always be free to use with updates from Apple/Google. I can’t imagine why people would ever pay for their infotainment when CarPlay is better or equal in all cases to the alternative.
That is insane take to me. Elon Musk is Nazi scum and the Tesla has issues, but the infotainment system is the best you can get in any car and the main reason I haven't been able to get rid of it, ignoring the fact that literally every other non Chinese EV in the same price range in my country is objectively worse specced.
Having an extremely responsive map with satellite imagery that boots up instantly is already better than every other car out there, but it also has built-in dashcam and livestream functionality for all 4 cameras, which is a bitch I to install in other cars, and it's already saved me a bunch of times.
Android Auto just plain sucks ass, disconnects constantly and a lot of newer models still require a wired connection.
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The issue is that the alternatives generally aren’t that much better in a vacuum. Infotainment vs Tesla infotainment (removing the CarPlay merits): It’s not even close, Tesla is like 10-15 years ahead of everything else on the US market in their price range. Car manufacturers famously lock in their tech and designs something like 3 years before public release.
Will there be meaningful software updates for your Kia EV6 in 2028? Absolutely not, no way.
Do you want to tow anything more than 1000Kg? Good luck outside of Tesla.
NACS? Not one single other car available yet.
Do you want a dashcam? Rivian is the only other brand, IIRC.
I’m not apologizing for Tesla, but it’s really painful how awfulall other cars are compared to the competition.
What an annoying position to be in, needing software updates for your fucking car. Then what, you'll have to replace it after three years because it won't get any new security patches anymore?
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Not necessarily Carl Benz himself, but the company has been litigated and has been proven to have had ties to the nazi regime. I’m not arguing that Mercedes was founded on Nazi values, I’m just saying there was a connection and a less than stellar history.
Every German corporation that was around back then had ties to the Nazis, especially anything industrial. As one can see in the US at the moment, corporations swim with the tide.
Most of these companies succeeded despite the Nazis, not because of them, with obvious exception being VW. -
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nobody wants a defective car.
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Not as big a deal as virtue signaling to that particular British scientist, naturally, but it’s quite important to the other ones I’m sure.
Of course the fascists invented a dismissive phrase to label anyone objecting against them.
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To your list add that new Tesla sales are also competing against an increasing number of Tesla owners who now want to divest themselves of the brand.
More used Teslas on the market will only push down the market rates and thus profits of new Teslas even further.
Good point, the article states a Tesla that only had 10k miles on it, had dropped in value by about 40%!!
With such low mileage cars on the used market so cheap, Tesla will absolutely be competing against their own used cars. -
I can see what you're saying, but at this point Elon is the most powerful person in the US, and certainly more powerful than any politician (even Trump).
I don't think everyone realizes how unbelievably, dangerously rich Elon is. The dude is a moron, but he has enough money to buy out all of our politicians many many times over.
Sadly I didn't take that into account...
Elon might have the world's most kickable-dick, but his money spends just like anyone else's.
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Elon has always been a terrible person
The problem with Elon is he's been provably an idiot for the past 25 years.
The first thing I ever heard about Musky is that back in 2000-ish he wanted PayPal to take their infra, throw out all the Linux/BSD in use, and move everything to Windows NT.
Anyone who was even remotely IT adjacent in that era can come along and tell you how utterly moronic that idea is.
Anytime I've ever heard him blather on about some stupid shit that doesn't exist except in his delusions or talk about, well, ANYTHING technical or specialized all I was ever able to think of is that he got lucky that Thiel didn't drain all of his blood and leave his corpse in a ditch.
From a musk pov it's 100% logical. Money.
Why? Win2k was quite stable. Stable enough to use it in warships.
Linux/Bsd is not free. When you use it in your company you want pro support. That support comes free with windows enterprise licenses. So the cost difference there is almost non existent. And, MS being M$, they would've sweetened the deal. A lot. Just think of the marketing worth of this deal for MS.
And lastly:
Who is cheaper? A good linux admin or a windows guy?So 90% of the stability at 50% of the cost. That's not a bad deal.
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Confusing title. How can a car be a Nazi?
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Will he really need customers much longer? I mean it seems like he can just have any government agency replace their fleet with his trash in the name of "efficiency".
Even worse is, he can use the government to sabotage the competition, as Russia and Hungary did.
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nobody wants a defective car.
They've probably had more recalls on the cyber truck than they've had sales of the cyber truck
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Confusing title. How can a car be a Nazi?
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Maybe it’s time to get better at researching companies before major decisions. Do you have a system in place for doing background research on future large purchases?
That shame is no use unless it helps you update your behavior. Shame about a “one-off” decision in the past will continue to nag you until you figure out how to avoid the same mistake in the future.
So how can you avoid realizing ten years out that some big purchase you made supported someone you disagree with? How can you do it in advance?
Don't be a dick. No one's going around investigating the corporate culture of every parent corporation that they buy their product from because they'd be at it all damn day.
Did you even watch The Good Place that the whole point of the show you can't be a "good" person based on absolute morals, because it's impossible in the 21st century as the world is too complicated.
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If Rivian had a more affordable option they’d be eating Teslas lunch right now. R2 coming next year.
Rivian don't sell vehicles outside the US though so they're always going to be on the back burner internationally. Plus of course, most of the world don't want a pick up truck style vehicle in any case.
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Let me be more specific.
I think he will be kicked out of DOGE because of all the controversy and Trump's own distaste for him. That between this and firing so many people who voted for Trump, Elon will become Persona Non Grata to the Right, pivot to the Left searching for some group willing to give him attention....
And in doing so, he will finally come out as trans... and be mercilessly mocked by the Right over it.
He will never find a group that accepts him (well her at this point), because we'll still remember all the horrible things she did.
And sort of find herself in the same kind of limbo Caitlyn Jenner is in where Nazis hate her because she's trans, and Non-Nazis hate her because she's transphobic.
This is how I'm convinced Elon's story will end. Just how I feel like this is going down.
Trump hired him in the first place so I don't think he's going to get kicked out because of Trump's distaste. Trump doesn't care about people he only cares about himself and Elon is useful to him.
If he gets kicked out it'll be because he became a risk to Trump probably because he tried to take Trump on.
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I guarantee that in a few months, mark my words, he will not be in Doge anymore, he will pivot to the Left, and SHE will come out as trans.
I would almost willingly put money on this.
Are we writing fan fiction for the government now?
I like how it follows the tradition of all fan fiction in being totally inconsistent with established personality traits.
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It’s close to 50% drop in Europe. The EU has 500 million people. They may not know it yet but Tesla is on hospice care.
Plus of course if the US ever does impose import fees on Europe the obvious response would be to impose import fees on Tesla's. It's a luxury item so the general public probably won't hugely care, and it will hit the only person really to blame for all of this without unnecessarily targeting other US businesses. You know, how import fees are supposed to be used
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To your list add that new Tesla sales are also competing against an increasing number of Tesla owners who now want to divest themselves of the brand.
More used Teslas on the market will only push down the market rates and thus profits of new Teslas even further.
Plus of course people are more likely to be trying to buy used cars (of any brand) or not buying any cars at all given the current economic situation. Which of course is also elon's fault, at least partly.
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Yeah but that's the logic that the climate change denies also used.
"Global warming can't be real, as it snowed yesterday"
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Are you criticizing Musk or our government?
Why not both?
